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It's 2am. I'm way to philosophical today. It must be the cold and flu medication.
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I would rather be able to hold my head high and say, what I did in sport, I did on my own backbone and have respect for myself.
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As BFV said, I'd argue there's too much of a competitive culture in this country.
I was on a ride alone about two weeks ago in SOP where a guy followed me just to compete with me. When I doubled back to lose him, he still followed me. I don't think he got the hint that not everyone wants to race. Some of us are just going for a ride and have other goals in life.
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ATP: Tennis has had a lot of shadow incidents over the last five years, and it's all very quiet. There is a website that espouses to report tennis drug issues, but all the claims remain rather unsubstantiated without confirmation from the ATP.
NRL: We've just had the recent hoo-ha about 'elevated levels' at the Roosters. Manly turned around in 6 days from three straight 80-minute poundings and played like it was game 1 of the season on Friday.
EPL: footballers are playing 38 club games a year, plus Champions League, internationals and trials, which can see them reach 50+ a year.
NBA: 82 regular season games, plus finals, with possibly 100 games if they all go to the wire. And now you don't get many stars sitting out 25 games mid-season like the 80's and 90's unless they break something or blow a knee out.
It gets to a point where if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, well...
Sir Charles got it started right, but now perhaps we need more of this.
Being a great footballer isn't going to pay your bills at age 60 when your exploits of 35 years ago are forgotten.
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other animal appears to have it (i.e. have organised sports), but it must have some survival value.
Whatever the survival value is, drugs weren't part of the forces that shaped evolution. So why
do you need to interfere with thousands of years of natural selection by doping up ?
Just recognize that you can't win at everything you compete in. Don't expect Cadel to win the
Australian Open. Don't expect any pro cyclist to turn out any time soon on an NBA court. Or in
a weightlifting arena, 100m sprint event etc.,. The more elite level, the more specialised (
aka freakish) your body needs to be to win at that sport.
If you feel you gotta win, be comfortable to find that sporting niche that suits your body type
and genetic makeup. Then find the training plan that suits your body (everybody is different),
and work hard at it. Don't beat up on yourself if you don't get to be world champ, and don't
think any less of others if you do.
Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us -Jerry Garcia
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The bridge the gap equation is easy, for me I'd need to gain 20-30W and to lose 7-9 Kgs (no idea what I weigh atm) based on the strava guessing, which might even be slightly low coz we were climbing bellbird into a slight headwind.
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Large money and/or kudos makes for a big incentive...
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So now how do we define dopers? You mean all the guys that have 'doctors permission' to juice to the eyeballs but claim to be '100% pure'? If you drink coffee, you can't critique others for doing legal drugs to gain an edge in my book. Coffee is legal and so are over 100 doping products you can buy from any local pharmacy with a note or script from your doc. Some are over the counter but you still need a doc's note to hand to ASDA if they, once in a blue moon, decide to test the local race.
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