Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

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Postby fat and old » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:38 pm

What happened to Tiernan-Locke? The same excuse as Floyd....”I got pissed on the eve of the World Champs and was dehydrated” :lol: oh yeah....he’s British.

Or “my body is unique and secretes salbutamol instead of sweat when I excersise”. :lol:

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Postby AUbicycles » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:31 am

Jan Ullrich is still in the popular media in Germany and reported now out of treatment again for substance abuse. Nice enough fellow but troubled.

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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:37 am

AUbicycles wrote:Jan Ullrich is still in the popular media in Germany and reported now out of treatment again for substance abuse. Nice enough fellow but troubled.

Nice enough to cause harm to others on a seemingly regular basis. Chocking a woman until she passes out is not my definition of nice. Being arrested for breaking into your neighbour's home, threatening and assaulting them them is not nice. Persistently driving while under the influence of alcohol and cocaine is not nice. Surrounding yourself with drug dealers is not nice. Driving your car into bicycles are then fleeing the scene is also not my idea of nice.

This is one example of the carnage he caused, putting others into hospital:
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Troubled - yes.

Needs help, yes (has persistently refused help for more than a decade - his first wife left him because he refused to get help).

Amazing bike rider (despite the doping) - yes, a phenomenal talent.

Nice - no.

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:41 am

Hopefully he has found rock bottom and finally gets himself sorted.

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Postby fat and old » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:28 pm

It's a crying ass shame what the Jan is doing to himself. I still pull out the Rudy Tayo's and Telekom gilet now and then. My all time fav. rider...in a manly way of course :lol:

I note that Armstrong continues his road to redemption using this. Maybe there's genuine concern, maybe not. He did make sure we knew about it.

And on that, I note that Cycling Tips is an enabler!!!!

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Postby AUbicycles » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:59 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Nice - no.


When I meet him and translated in an interview, my impression was 'nice enough fellow'. This was after the Telekom days, night club sagas and, if I recall, after one crash. Hope this context clarifies the comment.

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Postby find_bruce » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:32 am

In the Siutsou - positive for EPO

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Postby biker jk » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:55 am

find_bruce wrote:In the Siutsou - positive for EPO


Last roll of the dice to pick up a contract for 2019. BM had informed him in June there was no contract for 2019.

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Postby MichaelB » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:23 pm

biker jk wrote:
find_bruce wrote:In the Siutsou - positive for EPO


Last roll of the dice to pick up a contract for 2019. BM had informed him in June there was no contract for 2019.


Wonder why he had been told so early - non-performing or some other non-mentionable reason ? Was in the Giro team ....

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby MichaelB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:28 am

Valverde: I never tested positive

World champion defends his career after questions concerning Operacion Puerto


Oh yeah, neither did Pharmstrong ... :roll:

This is going to be a loooooooong year :|

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Re: Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

Postby find_bruce » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:06 pm

So can anyone explain (1) why it took 16 months to decide to ban Cardoso & (2) the satisfactory explanation for the lack of confirmation in the B sample ?

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