First image of the new Ultegra R8000

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First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Jawa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:26 am

Very Dura-Ace-esq which was to be expected I guess ...

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby g-boaf » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:58 am

Interesting included extras. :)

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby eeksll » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:14 am

very chunky crank arm.

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Jawa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:23 am

eeksll wrote:very chunky crank arm.


I think a similar philosophy has been adopted from the Dura-Ace crankset;

The Dura-Ace 9100 Crankset has been redesigned specifically for modern race bikes that are using disc brakes and shorter chainstays

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby P!N20 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:49 am

g-boaf wrote:Interesting included extras. :)


You'll need plenty of that to make it look pretty.

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby NASHIE » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:16 pm

P!N20 wrote:
g-boaf wrote:Interesting included extras. :)


You'll need plenty of that to make it look pretty.


+1 ,4 arm cranks are so unpleaseing to the eye

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Duck! » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:54 pm

Jawa wrote:
eeksll wrote:very chunky crank arm.


I think a similar philosophy has been adopted from the Dura-Ace crankset;

The Dura-Ace 9100 Crankset has been redesigned specifically for modern race bikes that are using disc brakes and shorter chainstays

No surprise... Ultegra/600 (as it was in earlier days) has closely followed Dura-Ace design for over 40 years. Why break tradition now? :)
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Jawa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:07 pm

Im actually a bit surprised some think it doesn't look nice, I really like it

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby MichaelB » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:52 pm

Meh.

Think the Chivas is better, but don't drink anymore ....

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby march83 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:03 pm

is there real world pricing anywhere? where's the R8000-P crankset. That's the one I'm looking forward to - ultegra level quality and pricing + shimano level reliability in a powermeter...

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Duck! » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:45 pm

Doubtful. If the pattern of the last few years is any guide, Shimano will do a press launch in a week or two with all the components details, but no pricing until the actual product launch in anothr couple of months.

I could be proven wrong, but I'd be doubtful of an Ultegra power crank at this stage - even the Dura-Ace one isn't out in the wild yet! Di2 took a couple of years to trickle down to Ultegra; I'd expect this to be similar.
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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby AUbicycles » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:48 pm

The trickle-down effect always benefits Ultegra and 105.

Duck!, do you have any details on compatibility with and between previous Ultegra series?

Worth noting that Chivas Regal as a wet-lubricant is probably a bit generic and for better performance, look towards Bowmore, Talisker and one of my favourites, Bruichladdich.

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Duck! » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:56 pm

As with R9100 Dura-Ace, there will be virtually complete interchangeability between this and existing 11-sp. components. The only bits that ideally should go together in either generation are the crank and front derailleur due to the different chainring spacing.
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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Jawa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:59 pm

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:50 pm

Man your ugly
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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Bunged Knee » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:15 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:Man your ugly


Don't worry about it. After he had drank the Chivas Regal and it's beautiful. :)
ID please? What ID? My seat tube ID is 27.2mm or 31.6mm depending on what bikes I ride today.thanks...

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby baabaa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:30 pm

Shimano have just gone all green and eco thats all. Flip that DI2 groupset image upside down and you will see stuff that can be found in ocean rockpools.....
The "Ultegra" font also looks way better in the 9 o'clock position

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Velt » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:52 pm

Reckon they'll do a 48/32 or a 46/30 crank?

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Duck! » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:23 am

Unlikely, 'cos that wil dictate making a specific crank spider to suit, which defeats the purpose of the current crank design. If you want lower, get a MTB crank or a Tiagra triple.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby 2wheels_mond » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:26 am

Velt wrote:Reckon they'll do a 48/32 or a 46/30 crank?


Unlikely. The 110 BCD on the cranks limits them to a smallest tooth of 34. To go smaller they need a different solution - e.g. some manufacturers (Sugino and FSA) use a different BCD for the inner and outer ring. With Praxis, the chainring bolt screws straight onto the chainring.

The downside of these setups is that it makes you very locked in in terms of ring choices as no-one seems to be able to agree on what the best solution is.

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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:53 pm

I don't know why Shimano didn't think of super low compacts when they redesigned their cranks?

Not everyone who rides wants the wide Q of MTB cranks when they want low gearing. It wouldn't of been hard to design it to be able to mount a something as low as a 28-44
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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000

Postby Jawa » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:23 pm

Surprisingly (or not) Canyon have just rolled out a sale this weekend. Of the 15 road bikes on sale, 13 are Ultegra 6800/70. Would be interested to know when the 2018 bikes come to retail later this year if reviewers would be able to notice any discernible difference between the generations. If not im sure there will be some bargains to be had

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