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Cycling and suncreen

Postby Jawa » Tue May 02, 2017 9:08 am

Hi guys,

Has anyone had some positive experience (ie brands etc) with sunscreen protection and long day rides? Thanks to my European ancestry I burn pretty quickly so I always apply before I head out, but if you’re on a long ride the need to reapply is necessary. So, what with all the sweat and applying over how do you stay well protected? Tips?

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby g-boaf » Tue May 02, 2017 9:19 am

Yeah, I generally go quite okay with sunscreen. Just find a small tube of it and reapply every 1-2 hours. That tends to prevent me from getting sunburn.

I generally do four to five hour bike rides so it is necessary.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Jawa » Tue May 02, 2017 9:28 am

that over the sweat too?

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby brumby33 » Tue May 02, 2017 9:53 am

You'll probably find that most Australian sunscreen creams are developed with our outdoorsy culture in mind meaning that most of it's developed for those who go to the beach often and go swimming.
So it doesn't wash off easily....use the highest number 5+ and beyond for maximum protection.

Ensure you ensure it won't run into your eyes..that stings like blazes....give back of neck a real good dose as well as usual legs, arms stc.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Calvin27 » Tue May 02, 2017 10:17 am

I find most of the Australian stuff really greasy.

One day I decided to try my other half's avene sunscreen and it was amazing and light. I do find that it only lasts max 2 hours though and the stuff is quite pricey in Australia at least.
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Postby tcdev » Tue May 02, 2017 10:20 am

If you're not worried about looks or aerodynamics, I've got a Treadley Helmet Hat that I wear on really hot days, or to set an example on family rides.
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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Tim » Tue May 02, 2017 10:39 am

Calvin27 wrote:I find most of the Australian stuff really greasy.

One day I decided to try my other half's avene sunscreen and it was amazing and light. I do find that it only lasts max 2 hours though and the stuff is quite pricey in Australia at least.


I don't like the cakey greasy stuff either. It does resist sweat though but feels horrible and bugs stick to it.
A female cycling companion put me onto Neutrogena, Ultra Sheer Face Sunscreen.
Good for about 2 hours, not as expensive as Avena, I use it on my face only and it isn't shiny and oily.
Thick, thick goop for the rest of the exposed body, hate it, but it works.
1 Litre, pump pack of Cancer Council Ultra Sunscreen 50+ lasts me for an entire summer and beyond.
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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Calvin27 » Tue May 02, 2017 11:17 am

Tim wrote:
Calvin27 wrote:I find most of the Australian stuff really greasy.

One day I decided to try my other half's avene sunscreen and it was amazing and light. I do find that it only lasts max 2 hours though and the stuff is quite pricey in Australia at least.


I don't like the cakey greasy stuff either. It does resist sweat though but feels horrible and bugs stick to it.
A female cycling companion put me onto Neutrogena, Ultra Sheer Face Sunscreen.
Good for about 2 hours, not as expensive as Avena, I use it on my face only and it isn't shiny and oily.


Yep, the womens stuff is amazing. It is pricey and I also use general bulk cheap sunscreen for the arms and legs.
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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby madmacca » Tue May 02, 2017 12:04 pm

Tim wrote:
Calvin27 wrote:I find most of the Australian stuff really greasy.

One day I decided to try my other half's avene sunscreen and it was amazing and light. I do find that it only lasts max 2 hours though and the stuff is quite pricey in Australia at least.


I don't like the cakey greasy stuff either. It does resist sweat though but feels horrible and bugs stick to it.
A female cycling companion put me onto Neutrogena, Ultra Sheer Face Sunscreen.
Good for about 2 hours, not as expensive as Avena, I use it on my face only and it isn't shiny and oily.
Thick, thick goop for the rest of the exposed body, hate it, but it works.
1 Litre, pump pack of Cancer Council Ultra Sunscreen 50+ lasts me for an entire summer and beyond.
A peaked cycling cap helps too.


I think Choice did a report on sunscreens last year, and the Cancer Council's 50+ came out on top. I just make sure to rub it well into the skin, rather than leaving it caked on top.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Comedian » Tue May 02, 2017 1:05 pm

Interesting topic. Wiggle sell a once a day sunscreen which I've heard good things about but have no experience with.

In 2013 I went to TDU with a mate. I was tasked to bring the sunscreen. I duly bought some really good stuff - EGO sport. It proved very effective at stopping us being burnt while being out and about for most of the day.

Unfortunately an unintended consequence was it destroyed the paint on his bike, and subsequently dissolved a sticker on my Ti frame. Just throwing that out there..

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Jawa » Tue May 02, 2017 1:43 pm

Comedian wrote: I duly bought some really good stuff - EGO sport. It proved very effective at stopping us being burnt while being out and about for most of the day.

Unfortunately an unintended consequence was it destroyed the paint on his bike, and subsequently dissolved a sticker on my Ti frame. Just throwing that out there..


Wowsers :shock: that cant be healthy to use that long term

Thanks for all advice guys

Problem with this sort of stuff I find is all the marketing hyperbole the manufacturers use .. "water resistant" .. "sweat resistant" .. well no your product isn't. Cheap vs expensive .. is their any difference, probably not

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Comedian » Tue May 02, 2017 2:03 pm

Jawa wrote:
Comedian wrote: I duly bought some really good stuff - EGO sport. It proved very effective at stopping us being burnt while being out and about for most of the day.

Unfortunately an unintended consequence was it destroyed the paint on his bike, and subsequently dissolved a sticker on my Ti frame. Just throwing that out there..


Wowsers :shock: that cant be healthy to use that long term

Thanks for all advice guys

Problem with this sort of stuff I find is all the marketing hyperbole the manufacturers use .. "water resistant" .. "sweat resistant" .. well no your product isn't. Cheap vs expensive .. is their any difference, probably not

My experience has been that no matter what you get - if you are out in an intense UV environment (like QLD) the best way is to re-apply often.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby SheikYerbouti » Tue May 02, 2017 2:59 pm

I use Ultraceuticals sunscreen. It's pricey ($60 a tube) but I have been using the same tube for 18 months now and it's still got plenty left.
It is high in Zinc so very protective, and I wear it for 2 consecutive soccer games in the March sunshine, sweating like a pig, and it stays on protecting me (bald). That's 3 hrs of super sweaty action, cycling is way less intense for me. After that it is still sometimes a bit tricky to totally remove. It also never runs, so no eye burns.

http://www.ultraceuticals.com/au/sunact ... otion.html

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Jawa » Tue May 02, 2017 4:07 pm

SheikYerbouti wrote:I use Ultraceuticals sunscreen. It's pricey ($60 a tube) but I have been using the same tube for 18 months now and it's still got plenty left.
It is high in Zinc so very protective, and I wear it for 2 consecutive soccer games in the March sunshine, sweating like a pig, and it stays on protecting me (bald). That's 3 hrs of super sweaty action, cycling is way less intense for me. After that it is still sometimes a bit tricky to totally remove. It also never runs, so no eye burns.

http://www.ultraceuticals.com/au/sunact ... otion.html


It might sound stupid but zinc hadnt even crossed my mind. When I think of zinc I think white noses and cricket in the 80s/90s

Just did a little googling .. seems while the sunscreens with zinc are the pricey ones they do work straight away, none of that 20 minute faff. Something to do with zinc creates a physical barrier whereas normal sunscreen is more easly absorbed and breaks down quicker.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Comedian » Tue May 02, 2017 5:03 pm

Jawa wrote:
SheikYerbouti wrote:I use Ultraceuticals sunscreen. It's pricey ($60 a tube) but I have been using the same tube for 18 months now and it's still got plenty left.
It is high in Zinc so very protective, and I wear it for 2 consecutive soccer games in the March sunshine, sweating like a pig, and it stays on protecting me (bald). That's 3 hrs of super sweaty action, cycling is way less intense for me. After that it is still sometimes a bit tricky to totally remove. It also never runs, so no eye burns.

http://www.ultraceuticals.com/au/sunact ... otion.html


It might sound stupid but zinc hadnt even crossed my mind. When I think of zinc I think white noses and cricket in the 80s/90s

Just did a little googling .. seems while the sunscreens with zinc are the pricey ones they do work straight away, none of that 20 minute faff. Something to do with zinc creates a physical barrier whereas normal sunscreen is more easly absorbed and breaks down quicker.

Thanks bud !

Yes, sunscreens are divided into two categories, physical and chemical. Generally I think the physical ones are considered more protective and long lasting, but generally not as nice to use.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby DaveQB » Wed May 03, 2017 6:40 pm

I hate sunscreen, so I don't use it.
I use summer arm sleeves and summer leg sleeves and these:
http://www.headsweats.com/classic-white/
https://store.haloheadband.com/Halo-Sol ... -p/sol.htm

I've done 10 hours rides with this and hardly get any sun burn. I do slap some sunscreen on the face.

Just throwing another idea out there.
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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby twowheels » Wed May 03, 2017 11:53 pm

I use Pharmacy Choice Dry Touch SPF50+. non-greasy, works well.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby enduro2 » Fri May 05, 2017 5:35 am

For starters, I set off at just after 5am in the morning and get back in within 2hrs on a 50km ride thus avoiding the extremes of exposure. I also only wear long sleeve jerseys with a neck collar and long fingered gloves. People have askdd if I cook, but with the air flow, I dond feel any different than with short sleeves and fingerless gloves. Nowdays I need a skullcap or bandanner, whick I am yet to purchase.

My sunscreen of choice is SPF30 Auscreen. It's not really greasy and stays on well, though I don't sweat much on the bike. While away recently we bought some ultrasheer sunscreen that is matt and not greasy at all. It's also SPF50. I'll be using that in future.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby sparco » Fri May 05, 2017 8:20 am

With sunscreens, don't you get any stains on your jersey/shirts? This is one reason why I stopped applying sunscreen on my face.

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby Comedian » Sat May 06, 2017 7:58 am

The other thing .. is these days they have these cool UV forecasts. So, you can look at it and say "I'll be back by 9". So, it won't even reach moderate by then .. even assuming clear skies.

http://www.arpansa.gov.au/uvindex/realtime/bri_rt.htm

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby warthog1 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:38 am

sparco wrote:With sunscreens, don't you get any stains on your jersey/shirts? This is one reason why I stopped applying sunscreen on my face.


I'd buy darker coloured jerseys then.
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Postby Tim » Sat May 06, 2017 1:19 pm

From one of the above links:
"In Australia, 1 in 14 men and 1 in 24 women will be diagnosed with melanoma sometime in their life."
The incidence of basal and squamous cell skin cancers is much, much higher.
I wouldn't worry about a bit of sunscreen on my jersey.
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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby foo on patrol » Sat May 06, 2017 1:57 pm

sparco wrote:With sunscreens, don't you get any stains on your jersey/shirts? This is one reason why I stopped applying sunscreen on my face.


Ummm nope! :?

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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby gorilla monsoon » Fri May 19, 2017 5:32 pm

Comedian wrote:Interesting topic. Wiggle sell a once a day sunscreen which I've heard good things about but have no experience with.

In 2013 I went to TDU with a mate. I was tasked to bring the sunscreen. I duly bought some really good stuff - EGO sport. It proved very effective at stopping us being burnt while being out and about for most of the day.

Unfortunately an unintended consequence was it destroyed the paint on his bike, and subsequently dissolved a sticker on my Ti frame. Just throwing that out there..


I didn't know bikes got sunburn.....
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Re: Cycling and suncreen

Postby gorilla monsoon » Fri May 19, 2017 5:34 pm

sparco wrote:With sunscreens, don't you get any stains on your jersey/shirts? This is one reason why I stopped applying sunscreen on my face.


I used a Banana Boat sunblock that left yellow stains on a couple of white jerseys. Changed sunblock brands, no more stains.
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