Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby hamishm » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:18 am

DaveQB wrote:Ridewithgps is a good solution too but costs.

Not true, basic members can create routes and download to GPX/TCX. Paid membership just gets you better editing and the ability to get advanced notice of turns (which would be useful if you have a non-mapping GPS, but not essential).

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby A_P » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:34 am

I have OSM maps installed on my 520, (DC rainmaker has step by step instructions )
Routes plotted on RWGPS (free version) and uploaded in GPX format.
Shows a line on the map with directional turn arrows which is more thann adequate.
Will give off course warnings if selected. Didnt display the text information but possibly this is for premium members.
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby RonK » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:30 pm

A_P wrote:Didnt display the text information but possibly this is for premium members.

You need to use the TCX format.
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby DaveQB » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:53 am

I still think https://dynamic.watch/ is worth a look at.
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:10 am

So far, the creating route in Garmin connect and uploading doesn't give the TbT that I wanted. Reconised the course, but that's it.

Trying a route home from work by the RwGPS course exported in .tcx as the next step.

If that works, I'll make a few more course in RwGPS for my Gold Coast foray, cancel the membership and enjoy the sunshine.

I'll report back if that works .... (fingers crossed, as I go soon !!)

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby hamishm » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:44 am

DaveQB wrote:I still think https://dynamic.watch/ is worth a look at.

It's useful but just for getting courses from Strava/RWGPS etc onto the Garmin without plugging it in to the computer though... assuming you're referring to the routeCourse app.

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby DaveQB » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:56 pm

hamishm wrote:
DaveQB wrote:I still think https://dynamic.watch/ is worth a look at.

It's useful but just for getting courses from Strava/RWGPS etc onto the Garmin without plugging it in to the computer though... assuming you're referring to the routeCourse app.


I haven't used it for a few weeks, but how I used it was to go to that site, login, create a route. Then turn my Garmin 520 on and it downloads the new route. Ready to roll.
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:08 pm

YAY !!! Success at last. The trial route that I used to get home worked a treat.

Method was to create a route in Ride with GPS, save it, then went back into the routes and viewed it ( can't seem to export directly after creating it ??), then selecting the export as TCX option.

Then, as I was st work, copied the tcx file into the Newfiles folder on the Garmin, rebooted and when heading home, selected the course and off I went.

Followed the settings/instructions found on the interwebs and all was good. Turns, warnings, beeps etc all worked and even noted when off course and resumed normal operation when I got back on without a hiccup.

Now I can plan some more routes for the Gold Coast trip and enjoy !!!

Edit : Some other bits I remembered

It picked out and displayed when you needed to take the 3rd (or whatever) exit at a roundabout (win), it also flagged when the road name changes (even if no turn - win again), route is easily seen on the map view (meh win), on the elevation profile, it showed where you were vs what is ahead - but still the 4km window (win-ish).

Pretty happy all round :)

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:39 pm

A big thanks to A_P for letting me in on his Strava so I could poach some good routes.

I've done them in Ride with GPS, exported them as .tcx files, and have them on the Garmin ready to roll. Don't know how many I'll do or how well I'll go, but "When in Rome ... "

Here are the links to the RwGPS routes

Binni Burra climb out & back

Dreamworld via the Coast

Beechmont climb loop

Snapper Rocks via Coast

Advancetown Lake loop

Look fwd to some warm weather riding. Garmin said 3 this morning ...... :cry:

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby RonK » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:07 pm

It is winter here too you know, so you can expect it to be cold in the morning, and around 5 degrees cooler on the tops.

But it will warm up quickly as the sun rises. Bring arm/leg/knee warmers, gilets etc. that can be easily stripped off to regulate body temp.

And keep your eyes peeled for motos, those mountain routes are prime biker territory.

I'm surprised not to see Springbrook in your list. Ah, I see the Advancetown Lake Loop covers most of it.
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby DaveQB » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:21 pm

MichaelB wrote:Edit : Some other bits I remembered

It picked out and displayed when you needed to take the 3rd (or whatever) exit at a roundabout (win), it also flagged when the road name changes (even if no turn - win again), route is easily seen on the map view (meh win), on the elevation profile, it showed where you were vs what is ahead - but still the 4km window (win-ish).

Pretty happy all round :)


Yes I have found the 520 decent at navigation. No 800 series with true GPS navigation, but besides missing the re-routing capabilities, I think it's good enough. Some routes I have used are missing the turn notifications/way points, so it's just one big long road (next turn is in 150km where you stop) but even then, you had a map and would be alerted if you were off course.
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:51 pm

RonK wrote:It is winter here too ...


Winter in Adelaide is different. Very Much so. Colder and drier (lower humidity), so will be heaps better.

Tonight's low is 5deg.

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:36 am

Just remembered another potential route from a drive we did last time up to O'Reilly's for the Tree top walk.

To go from where we are staying at Benowa makes it a 140km return trip, so will plan on driving to Carunga and riding from there. Doing it this way still makes it a 75km return trip and 1,400m of ascent, so still a good ride.

Anyone else done this route ?


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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby A_P » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:56 pm

Its a great climb, steepest at the top.
Go early + midweek as weekends get busy
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:22 am

Have driven it last time we were up there and was thinking "this is a nice road to ride, would love to do that ...".

Well, will get the chance now :D

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby RonK » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:23 am

Take care when you enter the forest after the alpaca farm - the road is very narrow in places where it winds amongst the trees.

Also quite up-and-down there and probably the hardest part of the ride.

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:43 am

RonK wrote:Take care when you enter the forest after the alpaca farm - the road is very narrow in places where it winds amongst the trees.



Stopped there last time !! I'll also take A_P's advice and do it on a weekday, as have that bit of luxury.

Really looking fwd to some of these rides, both flat & hilly. The only one that probably is lower on the list of priorities is the loop out to Dreamworld. We get to Brissy at 10am on Sat morning, and need to detour via the Outlet shops (as small sacrifice) on the way to the GC. Aim is to get the bike together and get a shakedown ride done late in the arvo, and then either head down the coast to Snapper Rock or try the Advancetown Lake loop. :mrgreen:

Then relax a bit after the ride, catch up with the Missus, watch a bit of LeTour and then out for a relaxing dinner. Rinse and repeat for another 8-9 days .... 8) :D

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby A_P » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:25 pm

RonK wrote:
I'm surprised not to see Springbrook in your list.


FYI , Springbrook rd is closed from Pollys Kitchen to Pine Creek Rd, mt Nimmel Rd is worth a look..
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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:22 am

A_P wrote:
FYI , Springbrook rd is closed from Pollys Kitchen to Pine Creek Rd, mt Nimmel Rd is worth a look..


OK, thanks for the heads up. So that rubs out the Advancetown lake loop that was planned.

Why is the road closed and for how long ? Can only find this and not being a local, is a bit confusing.

Anyway, will look at creating another route on the other side :)


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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:53 am

Ta. Great video. Them drones have a good use in instances like this.

Have made a route up the far side of the lake to Wunburra Lookout & back. That makes it almost 80km, so that should be enough.

Looks like some serious rock slips there, but would now be a treat to actually ride up it (down would be dodgy) as there would be no traffic.

Worth a try ? Doesn't look impassable by bike .... :?:


EDIT : Just also realised that with the RidewithGPS 'membership', you also get to create a really useful pdf of the route and have a bit of flexibility in how it looks. Useful to have a copy in the pocket just in case the Garmin dies or the course doesn't work properly. Bargain.

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby A_P » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:23 am

You wont be allowed to ride on Springbrook rd, and even if you could, the risk of falling rocks from above should be deterrent enough.
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Postby RonK » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:32 am

Yes, knowing that stretch of road I wouldn't be risking it.
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Postby RonK » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:45 am

This loop might interest you. It has a couple of hills. :wink:

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Re: Help me - Garmin 520 and making a course with point to point turn guidance

Postby MichaelB » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:00 pm

RonK wrote:This loop might interest you. It has a couple of hills. :wink:

Border Passes


Looks like a nice route. Will keep it in mind, but maybe a bit far south for me. Have loaded it into my routes :D

EDIT : Made mine based on this Border raid


Thanks for feedback re Springbrook. Will leave it alone then, plenty of other rides to do :mrgreen:

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