Speedwell appreciation society

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Gordon1 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:41 pm

Torana68 wrote:Was that the blue one?


Yeap. Blue with black. BSA hubs and pedals

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Gordon1 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:13 am

Gordon1 wrote:
Torana68 wrote:Was that the blue one?


Yeap. Blue with black. BSA hubs and pedals


Correction light blue and dark blue. Damn auto correct and not paying attention

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Torana68 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:30 am

Ok,
I can tell you , "G" numbers assend numerically , but not in sequence, so G28285 is older than yours and I said somewhere from '35 with '37 doubtfull (very) this one would be no older than '36 no newer than '37. Some of the info the museum had was based on what they were told , sometimes its right sometimes not quite. The more info I get the better I can date things, with Speedwell I have a couple of "one owners" some with dated cranks and info on others the same. I only have the Museums mug shot of that bike could you take some detail picks and send? If its easier Ive moved the old "Ozpushies" onto facebook, you can share the photos there? (do a Facebook search)
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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Gordon1 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:40 am

Torana68 wrote:Ok,
I can tell you , "G" numbers assend numerically , but not in sequence, so G28285 is older than yours and I said somewhere from '35 with '37 doubtfull (very) this one would be no older than '36 no newer than '37. Some of the info the museum had was based on what they were told , sometimes its right sometimes not quite. The more info I get the better I can date things, with Speedwell I have a couple of "one owners" some with dated cranks and info on others the same. I only have the Museums mug shot of that bike could you take some detail picks and send? If its easier Ive moved the old "Ozpushies" onto facebook, you can share the photos there? (do a Facebook search)


Thanks for that. I am aware of some inaccuracies in the information of the defunct museum which is why I was curious as to your thoughts. Some info handed down is plain wrong and then gets distorted. Having said that the price was well and truly right when I purchased so I'm happy to have it, regardless of what age it us. The nickel plating alone was worth more than the asking price.

If you could pm me your email I will get some better photos to you. I only have one good one readily available but could get more.....and no I abhor Facebook so no joy there.

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ADVICE PLEASE x

Postby Aphrodites » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:06 pm

Hi everyone,
Just scored this baby and wondering if anyone can tell me anything about it? The closest I could find similar appears to be a step through bike with "Brownie" on the crossbar.
And would we restore it or sell it?

Thanks for reading. Will attempt to post pix.

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how do I post???

Postby Aphrodites » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:42 am

:shock:

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Aphrodites » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:45 am

How do I post something and a photo? Please help! Just got something I reckon people could comment on for my better education.

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby find_bruce » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:57 am

Aphrodites wrote:How do I post something and a photo? Please help! Just got something I reckon people could comment on for my better education.

Well lit and sharply focused images are needed, so other readers can see what you are discussing. Images need to be hosted online and the image linked with an image tag as explained in this thread. If you have trouble posting Flickr images look here. Images hosted on Facebook don’t work.

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New Old Speedwell advice please...

Postby Aphrodites » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:39 pm

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Hi all,

I have this old Speedwell and am looking for any guidance as to it's vintage, etc.
The most similar I've see online was a "Brownie" Ladies bike from the 50's I think.

What kind of expense to fix it up, and/or what would it be worth now as is?

Thanks guys,
Nicole.

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Torana68 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Maybe early seventies, probably an offshore frame .
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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby bicyclepassion » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:52 pm

Yes, early 1970's. Speedwell. Dollarwise, it's not worth anything.

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby rokwiz » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:23 am

Great thread and information, I love Speedwell's. I get a lot of comments about riding my Speedwell in Victoria due to it being Malvern Star country.
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Re: Speedwell or other maker?

Postby flying dragon » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:42 pm

I finally got to work on this spray painted Speedwell (?). The plan is to repaint, and replace the fixed/freewheel hub with a SA 3 speed. I'm looking forward to getting this on the road, it fits me well and should be a fun ride (pictured is a little more seatpost than I actually need). Image
I've undercoated, and am attempting to match some colours with another Speedwell I have that has a purpley-red and bluey-aqua colour scheme. Sounds awful as I type this but to my eye better than the traces of original salmon & blue. Under these traces was a thin layer of red over grey undercoat.
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The fork blade tubing terminates in concave ends against the dropouts
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open ends of rear stays
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I wasn't sure how to date it, and when I stripped off the paint I found the date stamped into the BB - Jan 1939. The serial number is Z 12219.
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The steerer tube is stamped A & P Made in England B, and an S (for sport?). One of the rear dropouts is stamped 665N. The fork is drilled and threaded at the rear of the crown and not at the front, and the seat stay bridge is drilled vertically.
The rims are stamped DUNLOP MADE IN ENGLAND PAT 5131 11 DEC 1925 28 X 1 3/8 9
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Under the red rim paint were the crusty remains of the original salmon-orange and mid-blue centre stripe, with white pinstripes.
No name crankset, Brampton headset and BB, British Hub Company rear hub
So - I'm wondering if anyone knows if it is actually a Speedwell? Did they date stamp their frames in the 30's? I'm guessing that if it is a Speedwell it might possibly be a Super Club model.

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Torana68 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:12 pm

Made at Speedwell, did it leave the factory with Speedwell decals ? Maybe not. There are few “z” frames and none so far have anything Speedwell specific on them (nor had remnants of decals to help) It may well be 39 ish (39- early fourties) but I’ve never seen any date stamped, dunno what the numbers mean. The open ends on the rear fork ends are either, a short lived fad or a specific frame maker at Speedwell. I haven’t seen that type of work on basic frames. So maybe a “trade frame” ........ until something turns up to change my mind that’s the best I can suggest.
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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby flying dragon » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:31 am

Thanks for that ... when you say trade frame, does that mean say a bike shop bought frames from Speedwell and gave them their own brand, that kind of thing?

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Torana68 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:36 am

Yep as best I can work out. Up till more of the Z prefix turn up or more info comes from somewhere.
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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby 4wdphil » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:08 pm

So this one may seem a little sacrilegious but here's my circa 1940s Speedwell built up as a 1920s path racer lookalike.

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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby Torana68 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:58 pm

Nice :)
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Re: Speedwell appreciation society

Postby flying dragon » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:01 am

Very cool! Good to see a taller frame, and those flipped bars are nice with their minimal drop.
How is the shifter to use in that position? Dig the who gives a carp box in the background :D

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