Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

User avatar
ColinOldnCranky
Posts: 6056
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:58 pm

Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:05 pm

For years Adelaide some have touted the line that "Adelaide is the cyling capital of Australia", seemingly solely on the basis of the Tour Down Under and the presence of Lance Armstrong. The particularly annoying thing was that so many on the Adelaide Cyclists forum accepted this, somethignthat feeds into the lack of lobbying to do something about what is, in fact, a terrible set of roads to commute and get around the 'burbs.

Well, there is at least one dill who hasn't got the memo.

#AdlSucksForCycling … such a gloomy and disparaging hashtag isn’t it. Upon seeing this mysterious moniker regularly appear on numerous Instagram images over the past few months, we thought it high time find out exactly what was going on.

Touted as, and long acknowledged as Australia’s number one city for cycling, could the users of this hashtag be serious? Were they having us on, putting us off the scent, taking the proverbial piss?
http://www.clareclassic.com.au/adelaide-sucks-cycling-well-thats-theyre-saying-instagram/


Touted yes, by the Premier at the time and those who had never ridden elsewhere. But "acknowledged?" Who by?

As Adelaide would be, outside my own city, my main city to ride I just hope that this sort of tripe does not moderate any lobbying for SA to do better.

The GOOD news is that there is plenty of attention in the media decryign the drop in participation, the lousy infrastructure, the problems etc. Which hopefully is what cyclists will react to.

For commuting and getting around the city and outside of your immediate suburb the truth is simple. #AdlSucksForCycling. Drop the undeserved praise and do somethign about it.
Unchain yourself-Ride a unicycle
Image

User avatar
Biffidus
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:20 pm
Location: RADelaide

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby Biffidus » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:07 pm

Can't agree more. It kills me that Prospect Rd, which has reduced speed limits and hosts an annual tour downunder street party is such a dangerous road for bikes while the next road over has full-time bike lanes and is much safer despite being a busy truck route.

User avatar
Comedian
Posts: 5455
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:35 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby Comedian » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:16 pm

I've only ridden around Adelaide once for TDU. Given what I thought we were contributing to the town, I was surprised by the hostility of the drivers towards us.

eeksll
Posts: 2456
Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:36 pm

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby eeksll » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:13 pm

Biffidus wrote:Can't agree more. It kills me that Prospect Rd, which has reduced speed limits and hosts an annual tour downunder street party is such a dangerous road for bikes while the next road over has full-time bike lanes and is much safer despite being a busy truck route.


I have lived south and east and yeap the main roads are just pathetic for cyclist. Lanes just ending when you most need them (this phenomenon occurs on every main road south and east (not sure about the other directions)

Comedian wrote:I've only ridden around Adelaide once for TDU. Given what I thought we were contributing to the town, I was surprised by the hostility of the drivers towards us.


I am not sure if its the extra cyclist eroding drivers patience further or the news dribble pulling people into cars vs cyclist mentality, but it certainly does seem to be worse during the TDU time period.

Probably the only worse time to be on the road in the city is a month or 2 later when the clipsal 500 is in the city. I was riding home from work on one of those days, I had a woman (and presumably her 2 children with her) give me the finger with a few colorful words, they where standing on the footpath :?

AdelaidePeter
Posts: 287
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:13 am

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby AdelaidePeter » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:37 pm

Maybe I'm just lucky. At least on the plains on the south side of the city, and at least for commuter cycling, I think Adelaide is fairly good. There's lots that could be improved, of course, but there's a pretty good network of bike routes.

In 4 years of daily commuting (and many more than that occasionally commuting by bicycle) I've never once been abused by a driver, and only once (very mildly) by a pedestrian.

User avatar
DavidS
Posts: 2415
Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:24 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby DavidS » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:16 pm

Just looking at the topic, what can I say except, absolutely (see avatar) :D






Sorry, just couldn't resist, resume normal transmission now.

DS
Image

Cannondale Quick Speed 2, Allegro T1

User avatar
Trev Campbell
Posts: 162
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:12 pm
Location: Strathalbyn, SA

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby Trev Campbell » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:05 am

eeksll wrote:
Biffidus wrote:
I am not sure if its the extra cyclist eroding drivers patience further or the news dribble pulling people into cars vs cyclist mentality, but it certainly does seem to be worse during the TDU time period.

Probably the only worse time to be on the road in the city is a month or 2 later when the clipsal 500 is in the city. I was riding home from work on one of those days, I had a woman (and presumably her 2 children with her) give me the finger with a few colorful words, they where standing on the footpath :?


I'd have to agree, I commute all year. I only cop abuse about 3-4 times, 2-3 of those abuses occur during the TDU. Got my first one on Monday, when I was abused 'Ride in the bike lane d__khead' while on a section of an Adelaide road where the bike lane I was on just disappeared !!!!

I find it disappointing that we seem to continually send TDU riders and spectators up and down Gorge Rd. The bottom half of that road is in such poor repair its not funny.
Great Jens Voigt Quotes:
"I get paid to hurt other people, how good is that?"
"Shut up legs"

User avatar
Biffidus
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:20 pm
Location: RADelaide

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby Biffidus » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:53 pm

I guess it depends where you ride. I rode to/from uni for years with very few problems but I have regular issues on my current commute through certain northern suburbs... and it is always at chokepoints caused by poor infrastructure/planning.

nutsack
Posts: 226
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:11 pm

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby nutsack » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:27 am

Guess cycling capital depends on your interpretation. I hardly ride in the city, don't commute, but my regular riding is recreational including the usual outer harbour loop and long hills rides with some mountain biking.

For this reason I think Adelaide is the cycling capital - no where else on the mainland do we have such easy access to mountain bike tracks and hills riding. 15min to the hills, 20min to the esplanade, 15min drive to Mountain bike tracks.

Adelaide hills drivers are very tolerant to to cyclists in my experience. City not so much and I doubt cyclists sharing roads with cars will ever be accepted anywhere as white commodore bogan* treatment of cyclists will always exist.

*my anecdotal and personal expierence is that most abuse towards cyslists comes from white commodore drivers.
Main ride: BMC SLX01 Race Master 2010 SRAM Red

Uncle Just
Posts: 798
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:54 pm

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby Uncle Just » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:58 pm

For this reason I think Adelaide is the cycling capital - no where else on the mainland do we have such easy access to mountain bike tracks and hills riding. 15min to the hills, 20min to the esplanade, 15min drive to Mountain bike tracks.


Canberra?

I've enjoyed riding around Adelaide in my visits there usually at TdU time particularly in the hills or down to the southern beaches. No aggravation or abuse but not being a resident nor a commuter I can't comment on the intolerance that many experience from motorists.

User avatar
queequeg
Posts: 5283
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:09 am

Re: Is Adelaide STILL kidding itself?

Postby queequeg » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:12 pm

Uncle Just wrote:
For this reason I think Adelaide is the cycling capital - no where else on the mainland do we have such easy access to mountain bike tracks and hills riding. 15min to the hills, 20min to the esplanade, 15min drive to Mountain bike tracks.


Canberra?

I've enjoyed riding around Adelaide in my visits there usually at TdU time particularly in the hills or down to the southern beaches. No aggravation or abuse but not being a resident nor a commuter I can't comment on the intolerance that many experience from motorists.


Bright ??

Lots of BIG hills, impressive Rail Trail that goes forever, and lots of MTB tracks
'11 Lynskey Cooper CX, '00 Hillbrick Steel Racing (Total Rebuild '10), '15 Cervelo S5

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users