Mirella? Mystery bike?

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Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:47 pm

Hi all,
New to the whole retro/vintage bike thing. Started with a mid 90's Shogun earlier this year and had been looking around for something a little more project orientated when I came across this on Facebook Marketplace
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I'd love it if somebody was able to give me a bit of history about it, such as where and when it might have been sold, if mine is fitted out with the original components etc?
The only info I can dig up via google is that it might be a Leri Mirella from around mid to late 70's, but the Shimano components strike me as a bit odd. Anyway, pics below and I'd love to hear what people have to say about it in general. Cost me $120 which I'm pretty happy with.
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Being new to all this I'd love to know about the components (it was the Arabesque FD &RD which originally caught my eye). I'm thinking to do a full strip down, repaint and rebuild. So many questions lol
Thanks everybody.

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:02 pm

I've only ever heard the name, and that was a while ago, but have never seen one. Am also slightly surprised at the Shimano gear, would expect Campy or even SunTour bearing in mind the Sansin hubs and DiaCompe calipers, although all of these could have been retro-fit items....

Could be a very nice resto..nice frame.
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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:05 pm

Hi 10speed,
Yes it does seem a bit confused doesn't it? Maybe the frame pre-dates the Shimano gear? I've contacted a guy in the States who has a blog about these bikes, but still very minimal info. He did have a spec sheet for a similar model which showed all Italian components. But he had never seen one like mine with the name at the top of the seat stays.
Probably one of those random brands that popped up then disappeared. It's slightly small for me but it's a keeper, it rides great even without being serviced or touched yet.
I sure would like to know more about it tho.
Cheers

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:02 pm

Eug1 wrote:Hi 10speed,
Yes it does seem a bit confused doesn't it? Maybe the frame pre-dates the Shimano gear? I've contacted a guy in the States who has a blog about these bikes, but still very minimal info. He did have a spec sheet for a similar model which showed all Italian components. But he had never seen one like mine with the name at the top of the seat stays.
Probably one of those random brands that popped up then disappeared. It's slightly small for me but it's a keeper, it rides great even without being serviced or touched yet.
I sure would like to know more about it tho.
Cheers


Not a random brand as such, they have a bit of a following in Europe, but as mentioned I've never seen one in the flesh. Leri Biciclette (the makers of the bike) are still in business (http://www.leribiciclette.it/) and it's possible an email to the Co with the BB serial and some photos would provide further details (info@leribiciclette.it).

Personally, I'd pull the Shimano stuff off the frame and use it on something else and either do a full SunTour Superbe or SunTour Cyclone setup with the Symmetric shifters
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or a full Campy set up, maybe something a bit uncommon like Campagnolo Rally. But that's just me (and I'm a bit odd). In any case, is a nice frame, will make a nice project.
Mmm, SunTour

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby WyvernRH » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:17 pm

An old bloke in Newcastle had one of these, he claimed he brought it with him from the 'old country' (Italy) as a young man. My guesstimate would put that back in the early 1960s? The bike had flat handlebars but was equipped with good quality 60's French equipment- Mafac centrepulls, Simplex gears, Stronglight alloy cranks, Maillard hubs and had forged dropouts and nicely finished lugs. Mind you this stuff was made from the late 50's to the late 70's with little change. His bike did not have the panto-graph stay tops but did still have the headbadge and downtube decals (as in pic below - not his bike!)

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Site has more photos of this one with modern bits
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc028-fredyavorsky0805.html

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby uart » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:07 pm

Eug1 wrote: Cost me $120 which I'm pretty happy with.


Nice score Eug1. That's probably a very nice Columbus tubed frame, and well worth the money.

WyvernRH wrote:An old bloke in Newcastle had one of these, he claimed he brought it with him from the 'old country' (Italy) as a young man.


Do you happen to know what tubing they used Richard. I can see Columbus decals on the yellow one that you linked, but not sure what type.

Eug1, have you measured the seat post diameter, it's often a good clue to the tubing. BTW, yours like it has a seat tube shim (or is that just the top of the seat tube that has been bashed about a little bit?)

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby LG » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:52 pm

I can't help with any information, but am curious what the plastic cover thing is on the headset.
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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby 10speedsemiracer » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:11 pm

rain collar to maybe avoid moisture dripping down the stem into the headset...perhaps prior owner/rider was a frequent wet weather rider (?)
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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby ironhanglider » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:48 pm

Eug1 wrote:
Being new to all this I'd love to know about the components (it was the Arabesque FD &RD which originally caught my eye). I'm thinking to do a full strip down, repaint and rebuild. So many questions lol
Thanks everybody.


Actually the FD is not a match to the RD or the shifters. I find it hard to make out but it looks like a 600ax from the early 80's. It may be a match to the headset though.

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:46 pm

Thanks to all for your replies so far. Very interesting. I'll get some more detailed pictures up over the next few days when I get the chance. I also have received some more info via Facebook about components and materials.

Does anybody know if these bikes were actually sold in Australia?

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby WyvernRH » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:18 am

uart wrote:Do you happen to know what tubing they used Richard. I can see Columbus decals on the yellow one that you linked, but not sure what type.


Sorry, I didn't notice at the time. I haven't seen the old bloke or his bike outside the cafes in Beaumont St for a while now.

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:58 pm

Eug1, have you measured the seat post diameter, it's often a good clue to the tubing. BTW, yours like it has a seat tube shim (or is that just the top of the seat tube that has been bashed about a little bit?)


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Best I could do with the limited equipment I have. Is there a better way to get the measurement without calipers?

Also, no seat tube shim. That's just excess grease on the seat post. I got paranoid after spending 5 days trying to pull a seized post out of another frame
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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:59 pm

LG wrote:I can't help with any information, but am curious what the plastic cover thing is on the headset.



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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:02 pm

Actually the FD is not a match to the RD or the shifters. I find it hard to make out but it looks like a 600ax from the early 80's. It may be a match to the headset though.



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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:10 pm

Here are some further detailed pics, as well as a image of a spec sheet provided on facebook from Michael Britt, from the group Steel is Real!- Classic Vintage Road Bikes


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Thanks again for the feedback so far. It's turning out to be a really interesting bike. I'd love to know the whole story of it's history. Does anybody know if these bikes were sold in Australia or did they all come over "on the boat" from Italy?

Thanks again

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby 10speedsemiracer » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:28 pm

Eug1 wrote:
LG wrote:I can't help with any information, but am curious what the plastic cover thing is on the headset.




Was a short-lived add-on, part of the aero AX thing Shimano were pushing in the 80s.

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was supposedly to assist in aerodynamics.
Just a word of warning, that headset needed special wrenches to remove/replace as is made of soft-ish alloy. I have removed without the special wrench but need to be really careful..
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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby Eug1 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:22 pm

I've been looking around for a 2nd hand wrench at swap meets but no luck yet. Don't really want to resort to eBay yet. I will need one at some point as the headset is fairly loose. That's why I got the bike so cheaply.

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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby LG » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:57 pm

Interesting headset cover, but marketing improved aerodynamics, really...

With regards to the shimano headset wrench, I've got a few of these headsets and haven't bothered sourcing the original tool, a standard headset spanner works fine as long as you don't go too hard with them.

Interesting kangaroo on the crank, does it have any other markings?
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Re: Mirella? Mystery bike?

Postby uart » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:19 pm

Eug1 wrote:Best I could do with the limited equipment I have. Is there a better way to get the measurement without calipers?


It's the inside diameter I was thinking about. Probably stamped somewhere on the seat post if it's still readable.

Anyway, it looks like it could be 27.2 from your photo, which is correct for Columbus tubing. I'm pretty sure that will be a nice old frame, nice workmanship and good quality tubing. :)

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