My reynold 653 i pick up
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:32 pm
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Brett3938 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:42 pm
Ok thanks for that it nice all the help you get here10speedsemiracer wrote:I'd be thinking along the same lines as P!N20 and probably would also lean toward Columbus SL, just a feeling, can't provide an evidence guide for the feeling tho'.
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby P!N20 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:44 pm
It will tell you it’s not a carBrett3938 wrote:Is there any way with the chassis number on the bike to tell what it is ?
Unfortunately serial numbers on vintage bikes are rarely helpful. There’s only a few manufacturers that kept records or enthusiasts have deciphered the code. And all manufacturers had their own numbering system, so you’re really relying on someone recognising the placement and format.
00167...pretty optimistic if that’s the 167th frame of a potential 99,999! Although I guess it could be two letters followed by three numbers.
The 27.0 seatpost suggests the tubing might be Columbus SP or SPX, some even claim early SL took a 27.0 seatpost. SPX (and SLX) has rifling on the inside of the seat tube at the base where it meets the bottom bracket shell, so if you’re curious you could take the bottom bracket out and see if you can locate any ribs. They’re quite subtle, about five or six of them.
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Derny Driver » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:23 pm
Yes thats what I said in my first post. More likely Columbus. And the dropouts confirm that. The Reynolds sticker is not original.P!N20 wrote:
The 27.0 seatpost suggests the tubing might be Columbus SP or SPX, some even claim early SL took a 27.0 seatpost...
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby WyvernRH » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:16 am
Yes, all of that - tho I would read the number as G0167 or maybe GO167 I did a bit of research on makes, fonts and shapes for the stamps used on bicycles, machinery, tools etc a while back. Hard to date the frame using the font/stamp type as these things last for years and get handed down (I used my dad's set for example) But one thing I can tell you from the font and indent angle is they are modern-ish stamps, probably Japanese or Chinese, not the old British imports that everyone seemed to use in the past.P!N20 wrote:Unfortunately serial numbers on vintage bikes are rarely helpful. There’s only a few manufacturers that kept records or enthusiasts have deciphered the code. And all manufacturers had their own numbering system, so you’re really relying on someone recognising the placement and format.Brett3938 wrote:Is there any way with the chassis number on the bike to tell what it is ?
00167...pretty optimistic if that’s the 167th frame of a potential 99,999! Although I guess it could be two letters followed by three numbers.
While I hate to dampen anyone's enthusiasm it looks very much like a Technocrat built frame to me. Are you in Newcastle? You could try nipping down to Hadleys and see if one of the older employees knows anything about it. They don't just hand out their frame stickers to anyone and I doubt they would have applied the 653 sticker in that sloppy manner on a re-spray.
Nice bike tho, well worth building up and riding.
Richard
PS also IIRC did not plain or single butted 531 come with 27.0 ID seat tubes for some applications?
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby P!N20 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:54 am
I was thinking the same, but Technocrat still did some good frames, right?WyvernRH wrote:While I hate to dampen anyone's enthusiasm it looks very much like a Technocrat built frame to me.
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby WyvernRH » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:15 am
Technocrat made (still make?) a lot of top quality frames both for their own brand name and a lot of big name Italian manufacturers who happily stick their names on the frames. The big earner for them was their mid-range stuff which was high quality build and appeared all over the world under various names (Europa and others in Oz). Their quality control must have been pretty good, I've never seen a bad one. (except the chrome was often crappy...) They used all sorts of tubing depending on customer requirements so not a lot of help there, including the much underestimated Falck range - might be made of that?P!N20 wrote:I was thinking the same, but Technocrat still did some good frames, right?WyvernRH wrote:While I hate to dampen anyone's enthusiasm it looks very much like a Technocrat built frame to me.
Richard
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby uart » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:03 pm
I was thinking exactly the same thing Richard.WyvernRH wrote: Are you in Newcastle? You could try nipping down to Hadleys and see if one of the older employees knows anything about it.
And even though there is no real context to judge this for sure, the above picture looks like it might well have been taken somewhere along this little stretch of King Edward Park.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/(AT)-32.934 ... 6656?hl=en
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Postby Brett3938 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:13 pm
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby uart » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:17 pm
I ride my bike up there about once a week. Nice ride, but the steep part near the Bogey Hole gets me every time.Brett3938 wrote:That you would be right lol good work
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby QuangVuong » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:21 pm
You'll probably find that there are nails/pinning up the steerer and possibly in the BB junction too.
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Brett3938 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:11 pm
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Postby Brett3938 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:19 pm
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Brett3938 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:44 am
HOP
P.BLUE
Maybe????
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby P!N20 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:56 am
Not sure if Kerry Hopkins is still in the game - might be worth trying to contact him to find out what the specs are.
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Brett3938 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:18 am
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby P!N20 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:46 am
P Blue = powder blue or pale blue.
Looks like your headset crown race is split.
Not sure about contacting Kerry Hopkins - QuangVuong might have more of an idea.
I'm enjoying this thread.
Edit: so Kerry Hopkins apparently owns/part owns/once owned ABC Bikes: https://www.abcbikes.com.au/ I suggest you give them a call and see if you can get hold of him.
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Brett3938 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:06 am
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby P!N20 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:16 am
Hmmm...apparently some crown races are split. Ignore me. None of mine are.Brett3938 wrote:the split is not ment to be there?
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby uart » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:58 pm
Neither are any of mine.P!N20 wrote:Hmmm...apparently some crown races are split. Ignore me. None of mine are.Brett3938 wrote:the split is not ment to be there?
I thought split crown races were only a thing with cartridge type bearings. Brett's looks like it's just a normal old ball bearing type, I've never seen them use a split crown before. That's not to say that it isn't a thing, but surely it's gotta be "notchy".
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby Brett3938 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:15 pm
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Re: My reynold 653 i pick up
Postby uart » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:01 pm
Just to clear.Brett3938 wrote:It has got race type bearing in it
Do you meant a cartridge style like the following:
Or do you mean cup and cone style, typically with removable caged ball bearings (like in the following image), but also sometimes with loose (individual) ball bearings.
Specifically, is the thing with the split in it part of the actual race surface that the balls travel on?
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