Shimano group set order
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Shimano group set order
Postby mikesbytes » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:25 pm
Ultegra
105
Tigra
Sora
2300
Where does Claris and Altus fit in?
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby Duck! » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:36 pm
Altus is on the MTB branch of the family, which goes:
XTR
Deore XT (commonly referred to simply as XT)
SLX
Deore
Alivio
Acera
Altus
Tourney
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby mikesbytes » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:27 am
I was asked what Claris is like, by someone looking to do some gentle commuting.
Historically I've said that Sora is the bottom level worth buying and I recall someone saying that 2200 wasn't that good, however Claris is 2 iterations later, so does it make the cutoff mark nowadays?
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby Duck! » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:49 am
There's more too if you want to diverge further! There is also road Tourney below Claris, but that's seriously not woth mentioning. On the MTB side there are the Saint & Zee downhill/all-mountain groupsets, which sit roughly parallel to XT & SLX respectively, then you get into your Nexus/Alfine sets built around internal-geared & dynamo hubs.greyhoundtom wrote:There you go, you never stop learning, I had no idea there were that many in the Shimano range of group sets.
And if that wasn't enough, there's a whole swag of "non-series" components that parallel the main groupsets to augment the range with more specialist bits such as flat-bar road shifters, CX cranks & derailleurs, disc brakes, etc......
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:47 am
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Postby mikesbytes » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:26 pm
If we walk into a shop we have half an idea what we are looking at but for those less knowledgeable its the style, look and possibly the number of gears
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:48 pm
And that's probably still enough to warrant a "Shimano Equipped" sticker somewhere on the frame. It's always made me laugh how that's used as if itmikesbytes wrote:perhaps as little as the leavers with everything else coming from other manufacturers.
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby ldrcycles » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:24 pm
+1, i'd much rather work with a TZ or TY than a SunRun or Falcon.Duck! wrote:Shimano's real low-end stuff is still better than the other rubbish found on the bottom-dwellers of the market.
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:06 pm
though I do have this Huffy "favour for a mate" MTB hanging around my back yard at the moment. It's receiving all of the time & budget it's owner gave me reign with (ie. no time limit & no budget) Painful stuff. I just want to throw it back on his verge similar to how he found it. It's for his wife. I couldn't get through his skull it'd be counter-productive towards getting & keeping her riding. I think the thing would be better off as a fresh water artificial reef at the bottom of the Swan or Canning River.
I'll get the tyres holding air, a couple of 2nd hand/cheap'n'cheerful cable inners and a rough adjustment and that's it. It just doesn't draw me to working on it.
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby Duck! » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:36 pm
As a general guide the MTB stuff follows the same pattern as road in terms of numbering & ranking, but over the years there has been some "leapfrogging" of series codes through the mid-level stuff. Deore and the step up, previously Deore LX & now SLX have both occupied sections of the M5x0 & M6x0 sequences, which makes it hard to keep track of things. Although starting last year Shimano have begun phasing in a new numbering sequence (M9000 XTR & M4000 Alivio being the first, with M8000 XT joining very soon), which hopefully will make it easier to keep track of the evolutions, and will also more closely align the MTB groups to the road counterparts.HappyHumber wrote:I'm less au fait with the Mountain family stuff, but I try to memorise loose part series numbers as an idea of relative spiffy-ness to each other.
The codes actually make a lot of sense when you sit down & break them apart. The first digit identifies the group level (mostly - there is that leapfrogging mentioned above), the second is the series evolution, while the third and/or fourth identify particular variations of a component; for example, left shifter, front derailleur & crank for a road triple will have their part numbers ending in 3 (or 4 if it's an updated model). Disc brake parts are identified by 5 (or 6 for 6-bolt hubs & rotors).
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby mikesbytes » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:46 pm
I've got a ladies BSO that needs some new spokes in the rear wheel, which is 24" meaning I don't have any spokes the correct length and with that piece of bike its hard to cost justify buying spokes for it. So my options are;HappyHumber wrote:----though I do have this Huffy "favour for a mate" MTB hanging around my back yard at the moment. It's receiving all of the time & budget it's owner gave me reign with....
1. visit a mate I haven't seen in a while and use his spoke cutter and threader
2. score another BSO off a council pickup and get spokes off it
3. buy some spokes
And that one has twist grip gear changing which's makes just about any other group set on the planet look better
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Re: Shimano group set order
Postby AUbicycles » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:29 pm
Likewise, having one shimano bit means a K-Mart and Target can put Shimano on the advertisement.Duck! wrote:Shimano's real low-end stuff is still better than the other rubbish found on the bottom-dwellers of the market.
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