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Re: Sports risks

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:26 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:36 pm
uart wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:28 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:10 pm
.Holland is anything but perfect imo.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53261944
Resorting to criticisms of racism and colonialism? This is getting way off topic so I"ll bow out.
I didn't introduce Holland to the discussion, nor did I make a comparison between their cycling injury rates and ours or intimate that they were somehow comparable.
Colonialism?
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/07/euro ... index.html
Simply pointing out that what held up as a cycling Shangri La is not without fault. That seems as valid to me as comparing the fatality rates of 2 places that are so poles apart in terms of cycling infrastructure.

Is it more off topic than mandatory helmet laws?
Glad we are finished discussing such nondense. :)
This is where it went off topic: viewtopic.php?f=53&p=1595019#p1594982 and then completely derailed.

If you don't do sports, you still have risks - through getting unfit and all the problems that go along with that.

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Re: Sports risks

Postby WyvernRH » Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:23 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:36 pm
I didn't introduce Holland to the discussion, nor did I make a comparison between their cycling injury rates and ours or intimate that they were somehow comparable.
Colonialism?
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/07/euro ... index.html
Simply pointing out that what held up as a cycling Shangri La is not without fault. That seems as valid to me as comparing the fatality rates of 2 places that are so poles apart in terms of cycling infrastructure.
Maybe, but that is so far off any discussion about cycling... All of us have our cross to bear re that sort of stuff (and I cover several nationalities on that front) BUT nothing none of it has anything to do with cycling or its application to our/their society, here or in Europe IMHO.

And that's me out of the discussion until we get back sports injuries or to why I have bad knees from jumping out of helicopters with a radio pack on my back....

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Re: Sports risks

Postby uart » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:18 am

g-boaf wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:26 pm
This is where it went off topic: viewtopic.php?f=53&p=1595019#p1594982
How so? The topic is about the risks of cycling, and the poster mentioned different types of cycling and their varying degree of risk. To make that point he showed some images of various types of cycling, ranging from low risk all the way up to fairly high risk. That seems to be bang on topic to me.

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Re: Sports risks

Postby warthog1 » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:41 am

uart wrote:
Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:18 am
g-boaf wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:26 pm
This is where it went off topic: viewtopic.php?f=53&p=1595019#p1594982
How so? The topic is about the risks of cycling, and the poster mentioned different types of cycling and their varying degree of risk. To make that point he showed some images of various types of cycling, ranging from low risk all the way up to fairly high risk. That seems to be bang on topic to me.
Given the title of the thread is "Sports risks" unless we are now calling utility cycling a sport, I fail to see how it applies. He was replying to another post however.

From my perspective this is where it really went OT;
uart wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:25 pm

Yes, that video nicely illustrates why we need some draconian laws and fines to regulate the following type of activity. /sarcasm
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Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:01 pm
Last time I compared the statistics there with those of Australia, they had approximately a fifth the number of head injuries per bicycle trip made, and about a third the number by kms travelled.
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Re: Sports risks

Postby duncanm » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:48 pm

redsonic wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:38 am
Looking at the injury rates (bar graph), it is not clear if the injuries are per 100 000 of the population, or per participants. I suspect the horse injuries would be higher if it was rated by participant.
Table A19 of Data tables A: Sports injury in Australia, 2020–21 is what you want.

Linked from https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports-data/he ... njury/data

Top "Crude rate of injury hospitalisations per 100,000 participants, by selected sports, Australia, 2020–21" down to cycling, which seems about as safe as netball and cricket.

Rugby: 1209
Wheeled Motor Sports: 1205
Roller Sports: 1130
Equestrian: 917
AFL: 608
Soccer: 329
Skiing/Ice skating/Snow boarding: 286
Netball: 208
Cycling: 202
Cricket: 188


Of more concern is the type of injury (Table A25). Cycling is on top for internal organ and intracranial injuries. Way above motor sports, even. It wins on fractures, too (though they're of a less serious nature).

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Re: Sports risks

Postby redsonic » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:36 pm

Thanks for that link, and the summary. Those figures make a lot more sense to me.

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Re: Sports risks

Postby Duck! » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:30 pm

familyguy wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:25 am
That said, every MTB'er I know has been in hospital at least once. Not so for the roadies.
I've been to hospital twice as a result of road bike incidents, never for MTB. That's not to say I haven't injured myself by coming off the MTB, I have done on several occasions, but nothing serious enough to require a horsepiddle visit.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: Sports risks

Postby nickobec » Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:02 pm

Broken my both collarbones in separate incidents on MTBs and same on a road bikes over 20 years, never hospitalised or even visited emergency. When I get flak from radiographers, suggesting I should take up a "safer" sport. I point out my former boss who tore his ACL while fishing. He required a major operation and more rehab/time off work than all my bike accidents.

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Re: Sports risks

Postby fat and old » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:45 pm

duncanm wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:48 pm



Soccer: 329
Banging your head o the grass when taking a dive doesn't really qualify as a sport injury does it?

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Re: Sports risks

Postby foo on patrol » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:12 pm

fat and old wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:45 pm
duncanm wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:48 pm



Soccer: 329
Banging your head o the grass when taking a dive doesn't really qualify as a sport injury does it?

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