2021 Cycling fatalities

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby queequeg » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:22 am

https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news ... w9MQ%3D%3D
A critical incident investigation has been declared after a cyclist was struck by a vehicle in the state’s north.

About 9.40pm (Thursday 29 July 2021) officers attached to Richmond Police District were at an address on Churchill Crescent, Casino, for an unrelated matter when they noticed a cyclist riding without a helmet or lights on his bicycle.

Police requested the man stop; however, he continued riding and collided with a vehicle at the intersection of Churchill Crescent and Hotham Street.

He was treated by NSW Ambulance paramedics, however, died at the scene. The man is yet to be formally identified.

The driver of the vehicle, a 20-year-old Queensland man, was not injured and taken to Casino Hospital for mandatory testing.

The man’s four passengers were uninjured.

The Crash Investigation Unit (CIU) is attending the scene.

A critical incident team from Tweed-Byron Police District will now investigate all circumstances surrounding the incident.

That investigation will be subject to independent review.

No further details are available at this time
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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby Andy01 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am

No helmet or lights at night, ignoring police instructions - on drugs or Darwin Awards finalist ?

My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby queequeg » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:38 am

Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
No helmet or lights at night, ignoring police instructions - on drugs or Darwin Awards finalist ?

My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.
I read it as "cyclist was minding his own business when police happened across him. they requested him to stop and/or chased him, and he ended up under a car because he was focussed on getting away".

No doubt that's why there is a critical incident review. Had the police just let him continue on his merry way, not harming anyone but himself, would he have been hit?
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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby 1Rowdy1 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:42 am

Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
No helmet or lights at night, ignoring police instructions - on drugs or Darwin Awards finalist ?

My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.
Me to.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby Andy01 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:53 am

queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:38 am
Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
No helmet or lights at night, ignoring police instructions - on drugs or Darwin Awards finalist ?

My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.
I read it as "cyclist was minding his own business when police happened across him. they requested him to stop and/or chased him, and he ended up under a car because he was focussed on getting away".

No doubt that's why there is a critical incident review. Had the police just let him continue on his merry way, not harming anyone but himself, would he have been hit?
I guess that is one way of looking at it. I thought that critical incident reviews were quite common with traffic accidents involving a fatality ?

Sounds like he was breaking several road rules and reinforcing the impression (to the police) that cyclists are yahoos that just do whatever they want.

Should police not stop law breakers for fear of it being used as an excuse for the situation escalating when the law breaker tries to evade them and gets themselves or someone else into trouble ?

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby Thoglette » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:59 pm

Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:53 am
Sounds like he was breaking several road rules
None of which justifies a police pursuit. (It’s not Pedro o’clock)

This’ll be interesting to watch.
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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby find_bruce » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:59 pm

Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:53 am
queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:38 am
Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
No helmet or lights at night, ignoring police instructions - on drugs or Darwin Awards finalist ?

My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.
I read it as "cyclist was minding his own business when police happened across him. they requested him to stop and/or chased him, and he ended up under a car because he was focussed on getting away".

No doubt that's why there is a critical incident review. Had the police just let him continue on his merry way, not harming anyone but himself, would he have been hit?
I guess that is one way of looking at it. I thought that critical incident reviews were quite common with traffic accidents involving a fatality ?

Sounds like he was breaking several road rules and reinforcing the impression (to the police) that cyclists are yahoos that just do whatever they want.

Should police not stop law breakers for fear of it being used as an excuse for the situation escalating when the law breaker tries to evade them and gets themselves or someone else into trouble ?
As I understand it critical incident reviews are mandatory when there was a police pursuit prior to the crash. Police are required to respond with proportionality & that's one of the things a critical incident review will consider.

Yes drugs could explain the behaviour of the person riding a bike, as could mental health issues.

Another possible explanation is that the person is from a group that perceive, rightly or wrongly, that they are targeted by police for minor offences. And yes there is plenty of evidence that this has occurred.

One of the things I like about cycling is that it reminds us that there are idiots out there who will spew hatred at a person for something as trivial as their choice of transport. The difference of course is that I get to put on a suit and tie and rejoin a privileged part of society.
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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:09 pm

queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:38 am
Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
No helmet or lights at night, ignoring police instructions - on drugs or Darwin Awards finalist ?

My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.
I read it as "cyclist was minding his own business when police happened across him. they requested him to stop and/or chased him, and he ended up under a car because he was focussed on getting away".

No doubt that's why there is a critical incident review. Had the police just let him continue on his merry way, not harming anyone but himself, would he have been hit?
And I read it as :

Person doing wrong thing.
Police requested him to stop and he didn't.
Collided with vehicle and died.

Lots of details missing, so don't think ay correct conclusion can be drawn without further info.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby MichaelB » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:10 pm

Thoglette wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:59 pm
Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:53 am
Sounds like he was breaking several road rules
None of which justifies a police pursuit. (It’s not Pedro o’clock)
...
Didn't see any mention of a pursuit, unless mentioned elsewhere ?

May have happened 50m later when he wasn't looking or car didn't see them ?

No idea.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby Retrobyte » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:39 pm

9.40pm, country town - riding home from the pub? Or maybe resident was concerned person on bike without lights was a potential burglar? We will never know the real answer.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby queequeg » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:42 pm

MichaelB wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:10 pm
Thoglette wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:59 pm
Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:53 am
Sounds like he was breaking several road rules
None of which justifies a police pursuit. (It’s not Pedro o’clock)
...
Didn't see any mention of a pursuit, unless mentioned elsewhere ?

May have happened 50m later when he wasn't looking or car didn't see them ?

No idea.
Pursuit is implied due to the critical incident review, which generally only happens when someone dies when police are actively involved. We don't know the actual circumstances, but if his only offence was not wearing a helmet or having lights on, he's paid a high price for not stopping and copping the $3000 fine you'll get in NSW for such heinous offences on a bicycle.
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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby cogs19 » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:02 pm

Seems to be some strange reporting in this one - perhaps a deliberate action??

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/wes ... 86ff013382

Text in case this is behind paywall...

Yarraville cyclist dies after fatal crash in Spotswood

A Yarraville man has died after he was struck by a car while cycling in Spotswood.

A 53-year-old Yarraville cyclist has died in hospital hours after he was hit by a white Honda Civic in Spotswood on Sunday afternoon.

Emergency services were called to the scene on Douglas Parade about 2.10pm following reports a car mounted the curb, striking a cyclist, near the intersection of Sun Avenue and Douglas Parade.

The Yarraville man was rushed to hospital in a critical condition succumbing to his injuries that evening.

A Victoria Police spokesman said an investigation into the incident, which involved two vehicles along the popular cycling route, was ongoing.

“Detective from Major Collision Investigation Unit are on scene and are trying to establish the exact circumstances surrounding the crash,” he said.

“Anyone who witnessed the crash or with dashcam footage is urged to contact Crime Stoppers.”

The driver of one of the vehicles is helping with inquiries.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby AdelaidePeter » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:04 pm

cogs19 wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:02 pm
Seems to be some strange reporting in this one - perhaps a deliberate action??

...

A Yarraville man has died after he was struck by a car while cycling in Spotswood.

...

The driver of one of the vehicles is helping with inquiries.
Other reports say 2 cars were involved. To me it sounds like the 2 cars collided first, after which one car veered to the curb and hit and killed the cyclist :( :( :( . There is some news footage of the scene here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/stat ... 7219724289

The fact that only *one* of the drivers is helping makes me wonder whether the other car sped off.

Tragic in any case, condolences to all who knew him.

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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:44 pm

queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:38 am


I read it as "cyclist was minding his own business when police happened across him. they requested him to stop and/or chased him, and he ended up under a car because he was focussed on getting away".

No doubt that's why there is a critical incident review. Had the police just let him continue on his merry way, not harming anyone but himself, would he have been hit?
Huh? At this early stage, it appears that any fault is NOT of the cops. Your "reading" looks like a conspiracist mindset.

Re your conclusion on carrying out a critical incident review, these are NOT an indication of anything other than death or serious injury associated with police operations. It's a "just in case" mechanism that keeps cops honest.
A critical incident is an incident that has been declared to be a critical incident under section 111 of
the Act. A Region Commander has the delegated authority to make this declaration. The declaration may
be made if the Region Commander becomes aware of an incident involving a NSW Police Force
member that “results in the death of, or serious injury to, a person (including another police
officer)”{s110(a)} and “the death or serious injury:


...
...
(vi) appears to be likely to have resulted from any police operation.”{s110(b)

Perhaps, until the incident report finalised, you could cut the conspiracy stuff and spare a thought for the well-being of the police officers involved. After all, unless all cops are psychopaths, those guys are probably carrying some emotional damage not of their making.


Andy01 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
My sympathies to the driver of the vehicle, and the cyclist's family.
...and to the cops on duty at the time
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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:52 pm

find_bruce wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:59 pm
One of the things I like about cycling is that it reminds us that there are idiots out there who will spew hatred at a person for something as trivial as their choice of transport.
I can add hatred of some for just doing their job.

I'm referring to some of the comments being made here that apportion fault on little or no basis. Some conclusions are a bit to tribal for my liking.
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Postby find_bruce » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:55 am

ColinOldnCranky wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:52 pm
find_bruce wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:59 pm
One of the things I like about cycling is that it reminds us that there are idiots out there who will spew hatred at a person for something as trivial as their choice of transport.
I can add hatred of some for just doing their job.

I'm referring to some of the comments being made here that apportion fault on little or no basis. Some conclusions are a bit to tribal for my liking.
I've always appreciated your broad perspective and empathy Colin
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Postby Bunged Knee » Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:40 pm

Cyclist dies following crash - Central Coast
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news ... w9MQ%3D%3D
A cyclist has died after being hit by a car on the state’s Central Coast earlier today.

Just after 2.30pm (Friday 17 September 2021), emergency services were called to Empire Bay Drive at Kincumber South, following reports a cyclist travelling northbound had been hit by a passing car.

Police commenced CPR on the male cyclist, before the arrival of NSW Ambulance paramedics.

Despite the efforts of emergency services, the man died at the scene.

The male driver of the vehicle was uninjured and taken to Gosford Hospital for mandatory blood and urine testing.

He has since been released and taken to Gosford Police Station, where he is assisting police with inquiries.

Officers from Brisbane Water Police District, together with the Crash Investigation Unit, have commenced an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the incident.

As inquiries continue, police are appealing for anyone with dashcam footage from the area to come forward.

A report will be prepared for the information of the Coroner.
Not a good news to hear that.

Ride'n'Rest In Peace to this rider.
And condolences to his family and friends.
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Postby Bunged Knee » Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:34 am

^^ Update from above post.
Man charged after cyclist dies following crash - Central Coast
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news ... w9MQ%3D%3D
Following inquiries, the driver of the Holden was charged with dangerous driving occ death-drive manner dangerous and negligent driving (occasioning death).

The Wyoming man was granted conditional bail to appear at Gosford Local Court on Wednesday 8 December 2021.
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Postby Scott_C » Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:12 pm

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-09- ... /100479236

One cyclist killed and another injured by a school bus that left the road and drove onto a shared path in Bunbury WA.

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Postby redsonic » Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:51 pm

Scott_C wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:12 pm
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-09- ... /100479236

One cyclist killed and another injured by a school bus that left the road and drove onto a shared path in Bunbury WA.
Nothing the riders could have done in that situation. Sounded like the bus driver experienced a medical episode. I feel for all involved.

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Postby outnabike » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:51 pm

Seems like a hit and run this morning near Ballarat. Another family is suffering....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... d=msedgdhp

Cyclist killed in suspected hit-and-run during morning bike ride
A cyclist has died after colliding with a vehicle in a suspected hit and run incident in regional Victoria.
Emergency services were called to La Trobe Street in Delacombe, near Ballarat, just after 5.45am on Thursday morning.
A male cyclist, yet to be formally identified, died at the scene.
Representatives from the Major Collision Investigation Unit believe the man was hit by a car, which then fled the scene.
Investigations into the incident continue and police are calling for witnesses or dash cam footage.
Witnesses can also call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Postby queequeg » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:58 pm

outnabike wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:51 pm
Seems like a hit and run this morning near Ballarat. Another family is suffering....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... d=msedgdhp

Cyclist killed in suspected hit-and-run during morning bike ride
A cyclist has died after colliding with a vehicle in a suspected hit and run incident in regional Victoria.
Emergency services were called to La Trobe Street in Delacombe, near Ballarat, just after 5.45am on Thursday morning.
A male cyclist, yet to be formally identified, died at the scene.
Representatives from the Major Collision Investigation Unit believe the man was hit by a car, which then fled the scene.
Investigations into the incident continue and police are calling for witnesses or dash cam footage.
Witnesses can also call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
The language still irks me…hit and run, but it was the cyclist who collided with the vehicle?
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Postby Cyclophiliac » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:09 am

queequeg wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:58 pm
outnabike wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:51 pm
Seems like a hit and run this morning near Ballarat. Another family is suffering....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... d=msedgdhp

Cyclist killed in suspected hit-and-run during morning bike ride
A cyclist has died after colliding with a vehicle in a suspected hit and run incident in regional Victoria.
Emergency services were called to La Trobe Street in Delacombe, near Ballarat, just after 5.45am on Thursday morning.
A male cyclist, yet to be formally identified, died at the scene.
Representatives from the Major Collision Investigation Unit believe the man was hit by a car, which then fled the scene.
Investigations into the incident continue and police are calling for witnesses or dash cam footage.
Witnesses can also call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
The language still irks me…hit and run, but it was the cyclist who collided with the vehicle?
Yes, and then apparently the car fled the scene. :roll: No mention of the piece of garbage driving the car.

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Re: 2021 Cycling fatalities

Postby AdelaidePeter » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:45 pm

Vert sad news from Murray Bridge, SA. From https://www.murraybridge.news/p/cyclist ... nkley-road

A cyclist has died after being hit by a car on Brinkley Road on Friday.

Paramedics were called to the scene at Gifford Hill, near the Murray Bridge racecourse, at 8.50am.

The 47-year-old local woman was airlifted to the Royal Adelaide Hospital with life-threatening injuries, but died on Saturday.

The driver of the Suzuki SUV, a 21-year-old Murray Bridge woman, was not physically hurt.

Police closed a section of Brinkley Road south of the freeway for most of the day on Friday while major crash investigators examined the scene.

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