2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby find_bruce » Sat May 10, 2014 9:42 am
The old adage that you can't win a grand tour on the first day, but you can lose it. Sadly Dan Martin crashed out in 15 minutes & the weather played havoc with some of the favourites losing significant time in just 20 km.
Rigoberto Uran 5 seconds
Cadel Evans 7 seconds
Nicolas Roche 23 seconds
Rafal Majka 23 seconds
Michele Scarponi 38 seconds
Nairo Quintana 55 seconds
Domenico Pozzovivo 58 seconds
Ivan Basso 53 seconds
Przemyslaw Niemiec 1:20
Joaquim Rodriguez 1:33
Daniel Moreno 1:33
Ryder Hesjedal 3:26
I can't see Hesjedal making it back from there and Rodriguez and Quintana have their work cut out for them from here. All out attacks in the mountains will make for a great Giro
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby AUbicycles » Sat May 10, 2014 11:29 pm
Fantastic to see how the Irish are welcoming the Giro, pink flags and bikes hung up on the houses in towns. A great turn out despite crappy weather.
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby Strydz » Mon May 12, 2014 4:48 am
Shocking day out there for OGE, crashing all over the place including Matthews but good to see him make his way back and keep the pink. There looks to be a stage coming up (5 I think) where Kittel might get his sprint blunted and Matthews gets his chance to grab a stage
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby GAV!N » Mon May 12, 2014 1:13 pm
Kittel has no chance on stage 5, but I don't think Matthews does either. I'm tipping a breakaway, maybe one of the punch little climbers that GC contenders will allow to get away. Maybe Fabian Aru or Pozzovivo (if they're allowed enough time). It could also suit Sammy Sanchez. Maybe BMC will let him have a crack at some glory before sacrificing himself for Cadel later on? Boasson-Hagan? Maybe even Adam Hansen?Strydz wrote:Marcel Kittel is simply a beast, Swift did everything right and had it sewn up then Kittel just went BANG!
Shocking day out there for OGE, crashing all over the place including Matthews but good to see him make his way back and keep the pink. There looks to be a stage coming up (5 I think) where Kittel might get his sprint blunted and Matthews gets his chance to grab a stage
Either way I think it's going to be the first exciting non-sprint finish stages.
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby find_bruce » Wed May 14, 2014 4:52 pm
No real change for the contenders / pretenders - Majka has gained a few seconds somewhere, but otherwise holding station. Maybe stage 5 will light the wick, but I expect the real attacks will start in stage 8
Rigoberto Uran 19 seconds
Cadel Evans 21 seconds
Rafal Majka 26 seconds
Nicolas Roche 37 seconds
Michele Scarponi 41 seconds
Ivan Basso 1:07
Nairo Quintana 1:09
Domenico Pozzovivo 1:12
Przemyslaw Niemiec 1:34
Joaquim Rodriguez 1:47
Daniel Moreno 4:10
Ryder Hesjedal 3:40
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby GAV!N » Fri May 16, 2014 9:56 am
A shame that a crash towards the end may have impacted some results, but Michael Matthews! Incredible to hang on during the final climb to win the stage and keep pink, and Cadel picking up major time on GC. I know the crash may have mad a difference, but the peloton clearly had no organisation to catch up to the leaders. Quintana was forever looking around, no one taking turns, so kudos to Evans for making the most of it! Wooo!
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby macca33 » Fri May 16, 2014 1:14 pm
GAV!N wrote:Stage 6! WOW! What a day for Australia!
A shame that a crash towards the end may have impacted some results, but Michael Matthews! Incredible to hang on during the final climb to win the stage and keep pink, and Cadel picking up major time on GC. I know the crash may have mad a difference, but the peloton clearly had no organisation to catch up to the leaders. Quintana was forever looking around, no one taking turns, so kudos to Evans for making the most of it! Wooo!
Exactly. Nobody likes to see the carnage that erupted at that roundabout, but it happens. A small group (incl. the Maglia Rosa) - who had worked hard to position themselves at the front, avoided the crash and took off up the climb. The chasing group simply did not work hard enough - preferring to stare blankly at one another. That is why the break got to the line.
Fairdinkum, some of the comments on social media would have one thinking Evans, Matthews and that lot had shoved sticks into someone else's spokes...
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby GAV!N » Fri May 16, 2014 2:04 pm
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby find_bruce » Fri May 16, 2014 2:11 pm
Cadel Evans 21 seconds
Rigoberto Uran 1:18 seconds
Rafal Majka 1:25 seconds
Ivan Basso 2:06
Nairo Quintana 2:08
Domenico Pozzovivo 2:11
Michele Scarponi 2:28
Going, going
Przemyslaw Niemiec 3:41
Ryder Hesjedal 4:39
Daniel Moreno 5:46
Gone
Joaquim Rodriguez 9:40
Nicholas Roche 15:55
Two wildcard entering the contendors
Ivan Santaromita 1:47
Wilco Kelderman 2:11
As for the controversy, no doubt Evans will get no favours from the peloton, but did he ever ?
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby clackers » Fri May 16, 2014 2:54 pm
Well, Matthews will get now get lost in the mountains, but Go, Cadel!rheicel wrote:Two Aussies in the lead, great!
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby Strydz » Sun May 18, 2014 5:19 am
Evans in the pink now so will be interesting to see how BMC handle this, 2 weeks on the road defending the lead will put alot of pressure on that squad so they will be hoping Sammi Sanchez can really start helping once they get to the real mountains. I still think Quiantana will come good in the 3rd week after a torrid opening week with 2 crashes.
Well played Orica and Matthews, now it frees up riders like Weening to get into some breaks looking for a stage win
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby find_bruce » Sun May 18, 2014 8:03 am
Cadel has a nice lead and anyone with aims at the title will have to attack. I suspect his tactics will be Indurain style - follow up the big mountains, and force the other contenders to chase down attacks which are a threat to their hopes - eg Hesjedal seems to have the legs to stay with the favourites but at 4:30 he is not yet a threat to Evans but the other contenders can't afford to let him make up time.
Of the 12 pre-race favourites, only 6 left in contention now
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby clackers » Sun May 18, 2014 8:14 am
For good viewing, let's hope so. His one attempt to gain time on Evans last night was in the final km. Very hard to make up a couple of minutes that way!Strydz wrote: I still think Quiantana will come good in the 3rd week after a torrid opening week with 2 crashes.
Loved the red flag-waving official whose job was to stop the peleton going through the front door of an inconveniently placed house. These quaint little European towns are awesome.
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby Red Rider » Tue May 20, 2014 1:11 am
I don't know what the rest of the Giro is looking like, apart from being hilly, but I think if Cadel has a consistent race, he should hold off Quintana, just. As long as he takes some good time on him on the ITT, he should be ok.
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby toolonglegs » Tue May 20, 2014 1:33 am
The ITT probably suits Cadel... looks like a pretty steady climb on the way out, the hill climb TT will be tough though... least he won't get attacked .
Long way to go... should be fun .
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Re: 2014 Giro d'Italia
Postby GAV!N » Tue May 20, 2014 12:01 pm
Morabito has been a great work horse so far. Sanchez said before it started he would be Cadel's last man. Haven't seen any help from him yet. Wondering if he's saving himself for later, or if he's just not up to it?toolonglegs wrote:There are some monster stages to come... Cadel could lose 1 or 2 minutes easily on a few of those stages if he has a bad day. Steve Morabito rode well for him, it was good to see him get dropped, manage to get back on and bury himself to get back on the front when Cadel was out in the wind.
The ITT probably suits Cadel... looks like a pretty steady climb on the way out, the hill climb TT will be tough though... least he won't get attacked .
Long way to go... should be fun .
Would be good to see Cadel gain another 30+seconds on Uran and the rest over the first TT to give a bit more of a buffer. But yes, there are some big climbs yet to come!
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