Bicycles.net.au... the sticker... coming soon
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Bicycles.net.au... the sticker... coming soon
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:50 am
This is an announcement... and at the same time a reminder that I need to design and get a stickers made up...
The size will be 52mm x 74 mm and the idea (Thanks biker_4_fun & Mr 888) would be that they fit on the seat post. It is out of the way (won't destroy the paint work)... and easy to notice from behind... you guys are so fast!!!
Here is the first question... does it make sense to promote bicycles.net.au or specifically the forums. I will review the results and make a decision (well not necessarily based on the votes... but influenced by the voting).
Next step is to make a design... will post here first for feedback
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Postby europa » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:14 am
On the other hand, the community we're building up here is a good 'bait' and can be used as a gateway to the rest of your site.
I reckon a sticker like the logo on the top left corner of this page would be perfect (and you don't have to design anything but that's not why I suggested it). It's short, it's clear and it does both without appearing to do both. I like the line 'Australian Cycling Forums' too - it's a great tag for local advertising. The drawback is the orientation ie it's wide where to work on a seat post, you need tall. However, that orientation would work nicely across the pouch that hangs under your seat carrying your spare tube, etc.
Personally, I'm not likely to put stickers on my bike - that's just me, I don't have any issue with other people who do. I might put one or two on my panniers ... or on that seat bag now that I think about it. If the logo on the top corner were made into a sticker, I'd put one or two on my car (I'm not a big one for car stickers either, but I would in this case).
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Postby ShanDog » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:38 am
I agree with all of that. I did cast my vote as generic but I agree that the forums would be a good bait. Personally I don't have an issue with putting a sticker on my seat post (don't have a seat bag anyway). It's a mountain bike that I ride through dirt and mud etc so it's not going to win any fashion awards anyway (not to say the sticker won't be fashionable haha )europa wrote:That's a tricky one Christopher, as I'm sure you feel that the site is the main thrust and the forum is a side line - I wouldn't argue with that line of thinking.
On the other hand, the community we're building up here is a good 'bait' and can be used as a gateway to the rest of your site.
I reckon a sticker like the logo on the top left corner of this page would be perfect (and you don't have to design anything but that's not why I suggested it). It's short, it's clear and it does both without appearing to do both. I like the line 'Australian Cycling Forums' too - it's a great tag for local advertising. The drawback is the orientation ie it's wide where to work on a seat post, you need tall. However, that orientation would work nicely across the pouch that hangs under your seat carrying your spare tube, etc.
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Postby europa » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:46 am
Nah, it's not fashion, just some inner glitch. As it is, the only stickers on my car are AUFC stickers. It's a credit to this forum that I'd put one of its stickers on the car (where it's more likely to be seen incidentally).
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Postby ShanDog » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:52 am
Haha not you, I meant the bike . I saw the picture and it's looking very nice.europa wrote:Fashion awards? You don't know me very well do you My girlfriend has realised that the smart move is to give up on me (in that regard) but can't bring herself to do it.
I would put the sticker on my car too if I had a spare. I've only ever put one sticker on my car and thats for fbi 94.5fm radio station if you've ever heard of them. they play 50% aussie music and 50% of that is from Sydney and they're not for profit and no I'm not trying to give them a free plug haha, just showing that its not one of those typical 'commercial' stations
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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:54 pm
Two gloves.sbra9635 wrote:haha I hope you're wearing two gloves and not trying to go Michael Jackson style... Is he black? Is he white? who knows
Isn't Michael Jackson whiter than me?
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Postby AUbicycles » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:14 pm
Maybe the way to do it is to list the simple URL (bicycles.net.au) but with text "Australian Cycling Forums"... The correct URL is too long... and people coming to the homepage will easily find the forum.
The stick will be portrait... ie tall rather than wide... so will probably work like this:
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|bicycles.net.au|
| |
| (Cool Graphic)|
| |
| Australian |
| Cycling |
| Forums |
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(Come to think of it... thats a pretty sharp design already!)
For "Hard Core" forum members I will send (to who ever want them) stickers... for otherwise they will be free but with a stamped self-addressed envelope.
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Postby sogood » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:50 am
Just my 2 cents here.AUbicycles wrote:Maybe the way to do it is to list the simple URL (bicycles.net.au) but with text "Australian Cycling Forums"... The correct URL is too long... and people coming to the homepage will easily find the forum.
The stick will be portrait... ie tall rather than wide... so will probably work like this:
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|bicycles.net.au|
| |
| (Cool Graphic)|
| |
| Australian |
| Cycling |
| Forums |
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I would have thought the key eye catchers are the graphics (we are about cycling) and the URL (here is where you find us). I think the full title "Australian Cycling Forum" can be abbreviated to ACF or a small font size to make room for larger graphics and more prominant URL. It would have most impact if the URL can be easily read off by another cyclist or motorist. As for the abbreviated ACF, it can potentially be worked into the graphics in an attractive way.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby LuckyPierre » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:56 am
Is there any chance of it being reflective?
I'd also use a longer landscape sticker as a chainstay protector (instead of the plain black tape that I currently have!) as my seat post is largely taken up with a bag for spare tube / tyre levers etc. Maybe that's a whole different issue anyway.
I'm happy to pay for a sticker - after all, membership of the forum is free.
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Postby AUbicycles » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:10 am
Will push the price up to about $10 a sticker... maybe for round 2.peterrjleach wrote: Is there any chance of it being reflective?
What... and get it all greasy!!!peterrjleach wrote: I'd also use a longer landscape sticker as a chainstay protector (instead of the plain black tape that I currently have!)
Thanks... for hard core users I am happy to hand them out for free.. infact will send out a bundle so that all of your cycling buddies get one as well.peterrjleach wrote: I'm happy to pay for a sticker - after all, membership of the forum is free.
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Postby heavymetal » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:49 am
I think the design you have come up with is good.
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Postby LuckyPierre » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:54 am
B*gger! I just thought it was a good idea. Maybe there really is a reason why the bike shops want $$$ for a few strips of Scotchbrite!AUbicycles wrote:Will push the price up to about $10 a sticker... maybe for round 2.peterrjleach wrote: Is there any chance of it being reflective?
I was thinking of something along the lines of thisAUbicycles wrote:What... and get it all greasy!!!peterrjleach wrote: I'd also use a longer landscape sticker as a chainstay protector (instead of the plain black tape that I currently have!)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-SHIMANO-VINY ... dZViewItem only advertising bicycles.net.au rather than Shimano. It wouldn't only get greasy, it would get bashed around a bit - but that's the whole point of a chainstay protector anyway.
I think that the sticker is a terrific idea, so I'll keep the red herring level down a bit from here on.
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Postby ShanDog » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:23 am
What do you define as a 'hardcore' user?AUbicycles wrote: Thanks... for hard core users I am happy to hand them out for free.. infact will send out a bundle so that all of your cycling buddies get one as well.
I'm happy to pay. Heck, we've got 4 bikes at home that all get used so I'll put them on and when I get my road bike next yr i can chuck on another one. Plus my mates ride too.
Did anyone see at the SpringCycle, the family that had A4 advertisements for Summer Hill Meats on their backs, including the children? Was pretty effective as I still remember it haha.
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Postby Mr888 » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:51 pm
Peter's idea of having reflectors is fantastic! I don't mind spending the extra $$$ for additonal saftey.
I'm sure all of us are willing to help promote this site.
Let us know how we can help
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Postby AUbicycles » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:21 am
chainstay. Best I could do (without exploding the budget) is horizontal stickers however have the feeling that on the chainstay it would disintrigrate fairly quickly.
The horizontal format is nicer... and even I have a toolkit on my bike which would also block anything on the seat post.
I would suggestion this, lets get some stickers madde up first, they may not be the perfect solution however if they work well then for round two we will work on ideas such as reflection or a proper chainstay protector.
sbra9635, although you have a difficult user name... you are one of the most hard core members... the amount of posts in such a short time qualifies you easily
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Postby sogood » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:40 am
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby ShanDog » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:11 am
My username is just the login that my uni allocated to me when i started 5 yrs ago. I just used it coz its easy to remember You guys can always just use my real name instead (It's Shannon btw)AUbicycles wrote:sbra9635, although you have a difficult user name...
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Postby Monty » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:05 pm
Hey, I think I remember seeing them too... were the shirts a light blue colour? Very effective advertising!sbra9635 wrote:Did anyone see at the SpringCycle, the family that had A4 advertisements for Summer Hill Meats on their backs, including the children? Was pretty effective as I still remember it haha.
Oh, and I'd definitely be happy to put one of those stickers on my new bike. I'd prolly be happy to pay a bit extra for reflective, but then I'd be equally as happy with a plain one too. I suppose having them cheaper would mean more could be made up for less and therefore there'd more to distribute.
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Postby heavymetal » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:43 pm
Someone who has the rank 'hardcore' above their avatarsbra9635 wrote:What do you define as a 'hardcore' user?
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Postby biker_4_fun » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:29 pm
Cheers, Mark
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Postby AUbicycles » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:40 am
Here is my suggestion for the stickers. It is very simple as it should be easy to read & understand quickly. There is a gradient (like on bicycles.net.au) which makes it a little prettier (more dynamic and interesting).
As you will notice, the sticker has a very short quick message, cycling forums can be found at bicycles.net.au .. (in fact, when they are out I will get everyone to post photos of them on the bikes and about).
Let me know which version your prefer. To make the decision easier for you I have made a quick example of the most obvious places the vertical and horizontal stickers can be placed on a bike. It is quite easy to see which version has more possibilities. (Remember end size is 7.4 x 5.2 cm)
I will send them off soon... so any comments (even short ones) need to be posted here pretty quickly. When this is done... from December, they will be available.
Cheers
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