Canberra Times - Build low speed 'shared spaces': report
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Canberra Times - Build low speed 'shared spaces': report
Postby FromTheCapital » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:56 pm
Bunda st and Hibberson st arent a huge issue... Canberra motorists showing their usual colours though....
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Postby Robdog » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:10 pm
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Postby Mulger bill » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:01 am
What's the local mobs history of "Getting It Right"?
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Postby cp123 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:16 am
I heard people whinging about it on the radio this morning. "when they pay money for roads and rego blah blah...
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Postby Robdog » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:04 am
There's an ample lane Northbound from Sternberg to just over the crest, but nothing Southbound until you get well over the top. Speed differential makes a lane downhill going North less important IMOcp123 wrote:What about a bike lane up Erindale Drive between Fadden/Gowrie and the Hospital? I know there's a litle path that runs up between Sternberg and the next rdbt up (Sulwood?) but is there anything to get up and over the hill up near the turn down to Long Gully Road and the tip?
I heard people whinging about it on the radio this morning. "when they pay money for roads and rego blah blah...
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Postby mrgolf » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:12 pm
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Postby auskonrad » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:04 pm
but as for the rest, I'm happy they are at least getting balls rollings - as opposed to these issues not even being on the radar.
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Postby Aenveigh » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:26 pm
http://www.chiefminister.act.gov.au/media.php?v=10532auskonrad wrote:I don't quite get why there's no long term vision for something like Copenhagen lanes for Northbourne Avenue. I don't know what else they have in the pipeline for the middle nature strip
A study to identify upgrades and improvements to the Northbourne Avenue corridor, including bus priority, cycle lanes and pedestrian access has commenced, Chief Minister and Minister for Transport Jon Stanhope said today [11 March 2011].
However, the further detail is appararently at transport.act.gov.au, which doesn't seem to be working for me today.
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Postby mrgolf » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:39 pm
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Postby auskonrad » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:06 am
Oh right... I should read closer. My bad.mrgolf wrote:His idea was to create an offroad shared path to the left of the traffic. He has already stated this is his intention. There is nothing good in this for commuting cyclists.
Yeah, a shared path presumably then lets him take away the on-road lane, and then we are stuck with dodging pedestrians and then cyclists start using the road again without a bike lane. I have enough trouble dodging pedestrians who are trying to walk across backed up traffic through the cycle lane on the road let alone on a shared path.
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Postby mrgolf » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:28 pm
To me, a shared path will inevitably end up with a speed limit of around 20-30kmh for safety reasons (and fair enough). But, I often see the other side of 50kmh on Northbourne. To be slowed down that much, especially on training rides, is ridiculous.
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Postby auskonrad » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:14 am
I'm always a bit sceptical about politicians or whoever saying they are a cyclist too, it usually precedes them saying something like 'but I think the road isn't the right place for them..' It reminds me of TV idiots or talking heads or radio shock jokes who preface the most outrageous racial/sexual preference attacks by saying 'don't get me wrong, X or Y are some of my best friends.'mrgolf wrote:I am a bit miffed at Stanhope (allegedly a cyclist, too)
Wow. 50km/h down NB? Going to and from work, hitting 40+ scares me enough going alongside the cars... I guess I've become gun shy after *almost* being doored a few times.mrgolf wrote:To me, a shared path will inevitably end up with a speed limit of around 20-30kmh for safety reasons (and fair enough). But, I often see the other side of 50kmh on Northbourne. To be slowed down that much, especially on training rides, is ridiculous.
I also find that some blocks you get a headwind, and then the next you get a tail wind. It's bizarre. but slightly off topic
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Postby auskonrad » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:21 pm
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Postby twizzle » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:38 pm
I'm also a 50kph rider along there at times, and you won't often find me doing less than 40kph. But not in heavy traffic - too dangerous. Too many drivers who don't indicate or look.auskonrad wrote:Wow. 50km/h down NB? Going to and from work, hitting 40+ scares me enough going alongside the cars... I guess I've become gun shy after *almost* being doored a few times.mrgolf wrote:To me, a shared path will inevitably end up with a speed limit of around 20-30kmh for safety reasons (and fair enough). But, I often see the other side of 50kmh on Northbourne. To be slowed down that much, especially on training rides, is ridiculous.
I also find that some blocks you get a headwind, and then the next you get a tail wind. It's bizarre. but slightly off topic
To be honest - the bicycles along there really do screw up the flow of traffic in the peak hour-and-a-bit, and I quite like the idea of a dedicated cycleway right up the middle as long as it's wide enough that the sub 20kph POBSO's aren't getting collected by the 40kph+ riders like me.
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