Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Mr.G
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Mr.G » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:05 pm

Hi All,
I have an old 2 star track frame with serial number 7620 vertical on the right rear dropout. Only other number I could find looks like a casting number (raised not stamped) on the bottom of the bottom bracket hard to read but looks like 851. The frame has an oiler on the top of the bottom bracket and pump stays on the seat tube. The head has the 2 stars surrounded by ornate lugs. Any idea as to the age or history of the bike. I rescued this frame from a hard rubbish pile 45 years ago as a kid and built it into my first racer with modern parts back then. Still have & ride the bike today and is in almost the same condition as when I first built it.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:22 am

Unfortunately I can’t tell you much from the serial number and your description, other than it is not a track bike if it has pump pegs. If you can’t post photos here, pm me, and we can arrange for you to email photos to me. I can tell that most/all of the frames with serial number vertical on the rear fork end are 1960 onwards.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Anthony_D » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:17 am

Hi,
I'm new on this forum. I have joined as I have just got a Malvern Star frame and I'm trying to find out a little bit about it. Looks pretty early to me 2 stars on the headstem. Bsa cranks.
Bolted on back struts and serial number on the seat post 60431
Unfortunately its pretty much just a frame.
Cheers
Anthony

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Andrew Peterson » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:08 am

Hey , I have two stars and wondered what the age of these bikes are . One has a serial number 14448 it is girls bike with all the old bells and whistles . The other also a girls bike , serial number B120608 . I wouldn't appreciate any information on these .

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:54 pm

Need photos please.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Rocket1967 » Thu May 14, 2020 1:11 pm

Hi.
Just trying to get some information on a 2 Star Malvern Star bike frame I have which only has the bottom bracket, seat stem, head stem and handle bars fitted.
The frame number is 8M 19993 but it is stamped on the left side rear fork dropout running around the outer edge not vertically and not on the right hand side like some of the other ones listed. I can`t find any other numbers except the bottom bracket casting number. Thanks

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby joncoleman » Fri May 15, 2020 12:43 pm

Hi there. I have a Malvern Star frame and forks.

It has straight /track style drop outs.

it has 2 vertical stars on the head set, and one star either side of the forks.
It has integrated bearing cups into the headset.

The serial number on the rear right drop out is: 7M 6255

There is a stamp on the Bottom Bracket "British Made GR V LS (g)" which means at least the bottom bracket was made in Britain.

Can you help me identify what year it is?
Melbourne made I guess..

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby hardsell » Sun May 31, 2020 8:12 pm

Hi, 2 stars embossed above forks.
Serial number in right chainstay:

34
311039

Last digit bit hard to read as stamped on edge

Any thoughts on how old this is, or is it worth spending any time on?

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby shaneg » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 am

Hi,
I have been searching for a 1930's Malvern Star and believe I found one. It's a 2 star. It has the snail cam adjustment and the cyclo hanger.
Running 28" wheels but they do not seem to be original.
Cranks are a non-matching pair. There's no stamp on crank or chainring; have assumed they're not BSA or Williams.

serial number stamped on right hand side drop out = 33940.
Do you know what year this would be?

Cheers
Shane

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby KEABSTER » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:03 am

Hi guys...

Just picked up a little gem with what looks to be Serial Number 0729

Can anyone help with the identification on this?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Alexgwynne98 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:00 pm

I recently bought an old girls dragster frame and the serial number is 233341

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:54 pm

shaneg wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 am
Hi,
I have been searching for a 1930's Malvern Star and believe I found one. It's a 2 star. It has the snail cam adjustment and the cyclo hanger.
Running 28" wheels but they do not seem to be original.
Cranks are a non-matching pair. There's no stamp on crank or chainring; have assumed they're not BSA or Williams.

serial number stamped on right hand side drop out = 33940.
Do you know what year this would be?

Cheers
Shane
#33940, probably 1933 production.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:55 pm

KEABSTER wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:03 am
Hi guys...

Just picked up a little gem with what looks to be Serial Number 0729

Can anyone help with the identification on this?

Thanks in advance
Impossible to know without photos for this one.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:56 pm

Alexgwynne98 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:00 pm
I recently bought an old girls dragster frame and the serial number is 233341
Impossible to know without photos for this one. But post 1968 anyway.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:57 pm

hardsell wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 8:12 pm
Hi, 2 stars embossed above forks.
Serial number in right chainstay:

34
311039

Last digit bit hard to read as stamped on edge

Any thoughts on how old this is, or is it worth spending any time on?
Impossible to say without photos for this one.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby JimmyBlack » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:59 pm

Hi I have what I think is a 2 star ladies bike
Serial number on the left of seat upright seems to read
7P
37673
What year would this bike be from?
Doesn’t look like original wheels
Paint looks original as there is no paint underneath where it is scratched
It has what looks like “magistroni” on one of the cranks
Any help with identifying this bike would be gratefully appreciated
It seems I’m asking in the correct place

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:36 am

JimmyBlack wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:59 pm
Hi I have what I think is a 2 star ladies bike
Serial number on the left of seat upright seems to read
7P
37673
What year would this bike be from?
Doesn’t look like original wheels
Paint looks original as there is no paint underneath where it is scratched
It has what looks like “magistroni” on one of the cranks
Any help with identifying this bike would be gratefully appreciated
It seems I’m asking in the correct place
7P prefix usually means Made in Perth in 1947.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby hiflange » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:10 am

Nine months since the last activity on this thread! I asked about this frame back in 2014 but didn't have any photos. It was given to an older club member following one of our shows. He subsequently died and his wife is looking to get it built up in his memory (he had over 100 bikes at the time of his death and this one was special for him). It's a frameset that came with one wheel. The one wheel has disappeared. Anyway it would be great to establish a rough date for the frame to guide reconstruction.

Frame number is 8549.

Based on what I've gleaned from this thread it seems to me that it's likely a 1960's frame.. but the sample size is small; the majority bikes submitted and discussed are from the 1940's, very few from the 60's forward. My guess is based mostly on the 4 digit frame number.

Couple of pics

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:36 pm

Looks like earlier than 1960’s. Any chance of a photo of the whole frame and fork? What does the brake bridge look like? Can you take the fork out and see what number is on the fork steerer?

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Josh.Lange » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:38 pm

Hi Everyone,
i went for a walk this afternoon and came across an old bike Buried underneath some tin and chicken wire, i managed to pull it out and discovered it was a Malvern Star Bike.

upon research i came across this Forum, and have been reading - very interesting how the serial numbers have changed throughout the years.

I've been reading, but i cant seem to work out what year it is. Photos are attached, but it is a:
Malvern 2 star (6 Points)
it has a star on either side of the forks,
Pressed rear Dropout (Facing Backwards) with vertical SN - 19035
27x1 1/4" Tyres,
3 Speed Hub (unsure of brand - SN 3021728)

Fork tube - https://flic.kr/p/2mcK4jQ
Fork tube - https://flic.kr/p/2mcK4kS
Rear Dropout SN - https://flic.kr/p/2mcF1FK
Full Bike - https://flic.kr/p/2mcK4t7



Apologies if i used any wrong terminology - I'm not a bike fanatic, just love a ride every now and then for fitness!
Cheers, Josh

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Josh.Lange » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 pm

Hi Everyone - i found an old Malvern Star bike today under some tin and chicken wire on a rubbish pile - upon reading this forum, i haveb concluded it is 1960's+

It is a malvern 2 star with a pressed rear drop out, 3 speed hub, 27x1 1/4" tyres, but id like to get an exact year on it if possible..
SN on the rear dropout is 19035.

Apparently SN without a letter prefix started once again in 1960, but i'm unsure of their yearly production numbers, so i cant work it out myself. Any help will be Highly Appreciated!


SN - https://flic.kr/p/2mcF1FK
Whole bike - https://flic.kr/p/2mcK4t7


must say i am thoroughly impressed. After Sitting for over 20 years, the cranks spin freely, front hub spins freely, the rear hub does to; after giving it a jolt forwards ands backwards... if it had a chain, i'm certain i could've ridden it home!!


Cheers, Josh.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Imwit » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:44 am

Nice work rescuing it and with including photos on your first post. And it looks like you’ve done the reading too. Yes to it being 60’s. Warren might be able to narrow it down a bit more for you.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby hiflange » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:15 pm

Thanks Warren, 8549 - a couple of extra pictures - excuse the quality but the the frame isn't with me.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:32 pm

The serial number #8549 doesn’t correlate with the frame features, but disregarding that, I think the frame is between 1939 and 1950, certainly no later than 1950.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:35 pm

What do the seatstay tops/ seat lug junction look like? As always, it would be really handy to see at least one photo of the entire frame or bike when trying to date them.

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