OSA (Obstructive Sleep Apnea)

[brumby33]

Kind of makes you wonder eh warthog, how many accidents and I mean really fatal accidents were caused by someone that had not ever been checked with OSA, not realise they have it, or have been tested and discontinued their treatment or refuse to use the machine. I would say whilst it's never came out as a cause per se, I can fully understand people shunning or ignoring their condition. A condition that is not determined untill the unthinkable happens. Like My Union colleague, being faced with the long drive to Adelaide from Sydney, he didn't take his Cpap device and he paid the ultimate price.

brumby33

[warthog1]

Yeah don't know Brumby.
I go to an awful lot of distracted collisions as a percentage.
Mobile phones are heavily involved.
Fail to give way at intersections are relatively common also.

I need that gravel bike.
The older I get the scarier the road becomes

[brumby33]

Yeah don't know Brumby.
I go to an awful lot of distracted collisions as a percentage.
Mobile phones are heavily involved.
Fail to give way at intersections are relatively common also.

I need that gravel bike.
The older I get the scarier the road becomes

Amen Brother!!

[warthog1]

Some more uplifting information on shift work and sleep disruption.

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blo ... ft-cancer/

[brumby33]

Some more uplifting information on shift work and sleep disruption.

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blo ... ft-cancer/

Good bit of reading Warhog1.

Yeah shiftwork in some fields is a neccesary evil especially those who do rotational shiftwork like morning shifts one week and evening the next week I think is worse for your health than doing the same time every workday even if it's permanent nightwork.

Those who often do rotational are in the Public Transport Industry, in particularly the railways and goods rail too, Health and Nursing, Ambos and Police and Fire brigades and mining. The people in these industries have no choice other than to do rotational shiftwork to suit the business model in the Industry they work in.

I know many of these who have been detected of having sleep apnea.

I've been fortunate in my main job driving Buses and even trucks has been that I've usually worked early mornings and a reasonable early knock off time. There has been occassions where I've done long hours and stuck at a wharf till 3am waiting on a container or I've been working permanent late afternoon shifts but I've mostly always managed to sleep in my own bed for most time of the night. If it's around the same regular timeframe, your body can adapt and your body clock can too. I usually get up around 4am on a workday but on a day off, I might get that 1 extra hour sleep before i need to get up. Once I'm awake, I've gotta get up, I can't just lay there in bed forcing myself to sleep longer.

I'm just on the end of my 5 week annual leave which during lockdowns have been super boring, but being able to wake up when i naturally have had enough sleep has been bliss. My alarm clock has been thumped too many times and is now stuffed...gotta get a new one

Cheers

brumby33

[warthog1]

My alarm clock has been thumped too many times and is now stuffed...gotta get a new one

Cheers

brumby33

The pagers we use have been thown across the room numerous times, but they make em strong.

Use my mobile as an alarm now.
Too expensive and too much of a pita to replace so it doesnt get thumped like the clock used to.

[brumby33]

My alarm clock has been thumped too many times and is now stuffed...gotta get a new one

Cheers

brumby33

The pagers we use have been thown across the room numerous times, but they make em strong.

Use my mobile as an alarm now.
Too expensive and too much of a pita to replace so it doesnt get thumped like the clock used to.

Hehehe yeah same, I recently upgraded to a Samsung S21 so my old S7 which still has got a really good battery is my temporary alarm clock and doesn't give me a heart attack at 4am
I'm hoping once these lockdowns are over that I won't have to worry about alarms soon as I shift into semi-retirement. I'm getting out of Sydney to move closer to Qld Border but stay around the Tweed area. Annastasia can't keep us locked out forever. so I'l have a few Months with not worrying about work then look around for something part time.

I really want to get my body back in shape so I can finally enjoy some bicycle touring, something I've always wanted to do but never got around to it. I may have to buy a mini- portable travel Cpap device if I want to incorporate stealth camping into the mix. But even with those and a battery pack, I'll still have to charge up every 3rd night but it's not a bad compromise.

Cheers

brumby33

[warthog1]

Hehehe yeah same, I recently upgraded to a Samsung S21 so my old S7 which still has got a really good battery is my temporary alarm clock and doesn't give me a heart attack at 4am
I'm hoping once these lockdowns are over that I won't have to worry about alarms soon as I shift into semi-retirement. I'm getting out of Sydney to move closer to Qld Border but stay around the Tweed area. Annastasia can't keep us locked out forever. so I'l have a few Months with not worrying about work then look around for something part time.

I really want to get my body back in shape so I can finally enjoy some bicycle touring, something I've always wanted to do but never got around to it. I may have to buy a mini- portable travel Cpap device if I want to incorporate stealth camping into the mix. But even with those and a battery pack, I'll still have to charge up every 3rd night but it's not a bad compromise.

Cheers

brumby33

You've got to have a plan and that sounds like a good one.
Really nice part of the world and it will be great when it comes to fruition

[foo on patrol]

I have just picked this up today. A bloke on my GOFAR page put me onto it, as it's been the only thing that would help him and his mother is also on it, after being on prescription sleeping tablets. Since she has started, she no longer uses a script drug.




Foo

[warthog1]

I have just picked this up today. A bloke on my GOFAR page put me onto it, as it's been the only thing that would help him and his mother is also on it, after being on prescription sleeping tablets. Since she has started, she no longer uses a script drug.


Foo

Where did you get it from Foomeister?

[foo on patrol]

I have just picked this up today. A bloke on my GOFAR page put me onto it, as it's been the only thing that would help him and his mother is also on it, after being on prescription sleeping tablets. Since she has started, she no longer uses a script drug.


Foo

Where did you get it from Foomeister?

Put ya State in and Bobs ya uncle.

https://www.australiansportsnutrition.c ... orelocator

Foo

[warthog1]

Thanks mate.

[foo on patrol]

Thanks mate.

I need to read the instructions but I'm watching the Track Racing at the Annadome and enjoying a OP Bundy.




Foo

[warthog1]

Thanks mate.

I need to read the instructions but I'm watching the Track Racing at the Annadome and enjoying a OP Bundy.




Foo

Good luck with the sleep
Have a good night

[foo on patrol]

Thanks mate.

I need to read the instructions but I'm watching the Track Racing at the Annadome and enjoying a OP Bundy.




Foo

Good luck with the sleep
Have a good night

Foo

[foo on patrol]

Well that was crap. Only managed 3.5hrs of broken sleep, so I hope it kicks in better in the coming days.

Foo

[Bunged Knee]

Broken sleep???

Maybe someone swapped the label and it might caused it.


Not from Elm Street......

[Zippy7]

I've been on CPAP, and now APAP since ~2000. I only started because my missus said I stopped snoring (and breathing) for chunks of time so got sent to a specialist.
At that time, I didn't notice anything - maybe a little tired in the afternoon, but didn't have any typical symptoms.
Most of the early time was fighting the CPAP machine (and the specialist giving me stupidly high levels which bloated me everyday). Did I suddenly feel better due to CPAP? I didn't think so, but that could also be due to subborn (and IMO a stupidly rigid specialist).
I got an autoset machine and ditched the specialist. I sleep better and felt better. I also notice how tired I am after sleeping without the machine (maybe not 1 night, but I do notice an accumulation of fatigue without it).
At one stage I lost >20kgs (~20% body weight) Did things change when I lost weight? Nope. Had a sleep study and a different specialist reckons I could get by with a Mandibular splint, but I'm relatively happy with the machine.
Put weight back on due to covid, but things seem to be stable.
Now I'm trying to lose weight again, but sleep is not improving from the weight loss.
Does the machine help me? Yep, I feel a difference when I don't have it.

YMMV - machines might not work for you.

[brumby33]

I've been on CPAP, and now APAP since ~2000. I only started because my missus said I stopped snoring (and breathing) for chunks of time so got sent to a specialist.
At that time, I didn't notice anything - maybe a little tired in the afternoon, but didn't have any typical symptoms.
Most of the early time was fighting the CPAP machine (and the specialist giving me stupidly high levels which bloated me everyday). Did I suddenly feel better due to CPAP? I didn't think so, but that could also be due to subborn (and IMO a stupidly rigid specialist).
I got an autoset machine and ditched the specialist. I sleep better and felt better. I also notice how tired I am after sleeping without the machine (maybe not 1 night, but I do notice an accumulation of fatigue without it).
At one stage I lost >20kgs (~20% body weight) Did things change when I lost weight? Nope. Had a sleep study and a different specialist reckons I could get by with a Mandibular splint, but I'm relatively happy with the machine.
Put weight back on due to covid, but things seem to be stable.
Now I'm trying to lose weight again, but sleep is not improving from the weight loss.
Does the machine help me? Yep, I feel a difference when I don't have it.

YMMV - machines might not work for you.

Exactly what happened to me Zippy, it was my wife prompted me to get checked but I too was stubborn with thinking that looking like Darth Vader was going to put a stop to bedroom antics lol but none of that was gonna happen anyway while the Mrs moving into the next bedroom just to get some quality sleep.
So off I went to a specialist who put me on a rented CPAP and full face mask, I frikken hated it and lasted 2 weeks before I took it back and told them to stick it.
A few Months later, my Dad rang up and told me of one of his workmates was using one of those new APAP, a Resmed S8 and told me to do some research but his mate had similar bad experiences with constant pressure so bought an Auto-Pap, so I looked for some info and end up buying same Machine and took to it like a duck to water but only using a nasal mask even though I was a Mouth breather.

I'm on my 3rd Machine now having a brief ownership of a useless F&P Machine, I went and bought a Resmed Airsense 10 and love it to bits, I'm getting great sleep although I need a new mask now which often leaks but what i like too is the fact it is recording my sleep and it gets sent into a data via wifi app and all I gotta do is call Resmed and they will send my diagnostics directly to my specialist whom I have to see every 12 Months as I hold a Commercial Driver's license, but because of Covid, he is not seeing patients face to face but rather What's app phone video call which works really well and he only charges me Bulk billing for that rather than the hefty yearly fee for personal attendance at his office.

What does peev me is that my private health insurance will give me $600 towards a new machine but they won't give anything towards new masks as they classify them as consumables which I say BS because they are part of the treatment and one can't be used without the other, I've written letters and such but had no luck. they cost $300 every 2-3 years, so I stretch it out as long as I can.

I'm trying to save up for a small AC/DC powered Mini apap so I can use it camping. a battery will give me 2 sleeps per charge and because they don't use a humidifier, they are economical to run.

Glad you're seeing good results Zippy.....I'm used to being a Hose head now, I can't see anything other way.

Cheers

brumby33

[Zippy7]

Hey Brumby,

Good to hear it's working for you too. My health insurer only gives me $500 back on the machine and nothing on the masks

Just a tip with regards to these mask cushions, a few years back I was buying directly from the US (I had another friend who also uses CPAP and he was fine to split the shipping costs).

But now the AUD has tanked, I started buying them off ebay and also Amazon Australia (but the seller was Amazon US) - I was able to order a couple of cushions around the $45/$50 mark. They would sell out occasionally so you just keep an eye out on them. I also bought a replacement heated hose and water tank for my S9 as I use that for travelling now. A lot of the stuff is made in Australia, shipped to US to sell, then we can buy it shipped back here for half the price the retailers here want to charge. Mind you, I would only buy the machine here for warranty and peace of mind.

Cheers.

[brumby33]

Hey Brumby,

Good to hear it's working for you too. My health insurer only gives me $500 back on the machine and nothing on the masks

Just a tip with regards to these mask cushions, a few years back I was buying directly from the US (I had another friend who also uses CPAP and he was fine to split the shipping costs).

But now the AUD has tanked, I started buying them off ebay and also Amazon Australia (but the seller was Amazon US) - I was able to order a couple of cushions around the $45/$50 mark. They would sell out occasionally so you just keep an eye out on them. I also bought a replacement heated hose and water tank for my S9 as I use that for travelling now. A lot of the stuff is made in Australia, shipped to US to sell, then we can buy it shipped back here for half the price the retailers here want to charge. Mind you, I would only buy the machine here for warranty and peace of mind.

Cheers.

Hi Zippy, thanks for that, yeah I try and stretch out the longativity of my masks and cushions due to their excessive price, especially the masks but they need replacing too at times as they get noisy from the swiveling parts from moving around all night but the cushions should be ok.
Amazon AU has only really kicked of in the last 2 years so it's primarily been the US that sellers have targeted due to their extensive audience.....but it's getting a lot better down here as the Market in the US has become rather saturated in most things, especially rubbish from.....well you know where

I may need to get a new mask soon but i haven't been all that impressed by some of the designs that have come out recently, by trying to make the masks less invasive, the strappings that go around your head are too soft and prone to either move too much or even come off during sleep.

I just bought a packet of 12 filters for 30 dollars in a Cpap store in Hurstville. seems a lot for what you get but at once a Month I guess it's probably the cheapest thing you can buy for them lol.

So you're thinking the S9 is a good traveller? that's why i like Resmed, they arn't too big for travelling, I've taken my original S8 to Japan with me and it recognizes most electric currencies automatically so it was more of less plug and play and there was no performance differences, just had to have to right adaptor for Japanese sockets.....and they don't have electrical switches over there for power points so you've got to pull it out of the wall every time you've finished with it for the day.

Cheers fellow hose head

brumby33

[Zippy7]

Hey Brumby33

I am only using the S9 as a traveller because I upgraded from the S9 to S10. Previous to the S9, I was using the older style (oval shape machine - S7 Spirit or something which was huge and chunky and I figured it was too big for travelling).
I do think the S9 machine is a better form factor (flatter, more rectangular). The bag storage is nice and organised - I've not even thought about travelling with the S10 because I prefer to keep the good machine at home

I saw a youtube video that did a teardown of the S11 and apparently the air turbine unit inside the S11 is the same as the 4 year old Resmed Mini. I suppose the circuitboard/algo-logic might be improved, and you get a humidifier. Just food for thought.

I might get a new mask for myself, but unsure about the newer styles (still rocking a Resmed Activa LT).